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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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« on: December 03, 2004, 08:29:42 AM »

All the crime figures you could ever want here....

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cnscj.pdf

Compares crime rates in the US/UK/Canada/Australia etc.

Quite funny actually Richius, because if you care to analyse the figures above you'll find for Homicide, Rape & Armed Robbery, Canada is worse than the UK!!
Scotland actually has some of the lowest crime figures.

Yet more evidence that 'Crime Ridden UK' is a load of nonsense.

Did you really look at that report?

Canada: Homicides 1981=647 1999=536 (pg 151)
Endland: Homicide 1981=559 1999=746 (pg 34)

While England and Wales do have a lower per capita rate, the rate has been climbing, not dropping as it is in Canada.

Canada does not report rape figures seperately.  It is unfair to compare rape to sexual assault as one includes a whole host of other crimes.  Likewaise it is unfair to use Canada's aggrivated sexual assault numbers.

Robbery has gone from 4.2% in England to 8.2% over the 18 years of the study.  In Canada it remained at roughly 9.4%.  With the study being 5 years old England and Wales may have passed Canada by now, if the trends continued.

I must work now, more later if the thread still warrants it.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2004, 02:10:19 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2004, 02:18:55 PM by Tredrick »

Just a post before mine you were all gung ho to compare crime statistics between nations when you thought they said what you wanted them to say. 

Looking at the numbers for England/Wales your statement about an increase in % reported is correct from 1981-1991, but then the report rate declined from then until 1999.  In some cases the percentage being reported is below 1981 levels.  You can find this data for each crime as probibility reported/offense.

EDIT: In fairness the number of reported assaults did shoot up in 1999.  It does seem the efforts to not tolerate violence yielded some fruit.  The tolerance for petty or non violent crimes is back where it was when the study began though.
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