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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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« on: November 27, 2004, 10:08:40 PM »

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,754
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2004, 10:23:11 PM »

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,754
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2004, 10:29:11 PM »

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,754
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2004, 11:03:41 AM »

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.

That is correct, but it's *not* my point. There are a lot of partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans....just as there are moderate Democrats and Republicans.

So rather than provide an intelligent answer to the question you posted a non-sequitor that looked like a really dumb answer to the question.

Got ya.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,754
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2004, 05:35:53 PM »

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.

That is correct, but it's *not* my point. There are a lot of partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans....just as there are moderate Democrats and Republicans.

So rather than provide an intelligent answer to the question you posted a non-sequitor that looked like a really dumb answer to the question.

Got ya.

No. You're suggesting that just because there are a lot of partisans that means that every Democrat and every Republican is voting with their party...that's not what I said at all.

Ok, explain to me what you meant when you answered that there are a lot of partisan democrats and republicans when asked to explain why four states with large democrat advanteges in party registration voted Republican.

Please answer without resorting to offensive smears or non-sequitors.
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ATFFL
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,754
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2004, 09:13:54 PM »

The country is *extremely* partisan right now, at least on the national level.

Really?

Then explain, if the above statement is true, how come Kerry lost West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky and Louisiana?

Without resorting to offensive smears please

Umm because there a lot of partisan Democrats and a lot of partisan Republicans.

All the states Al listed have many more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Not all Democrats and Republicans are partisans.

Then why did you answer the initial question the way you did?

My original point is that we have a very polarized, partisan country right now. What is the problem?

Your statement was that we are a highly partisan and polarized nation.  It would then follow that members of a party would support their party heavily.

Al countered with four examples of states where Democrats have a large advantage in registration numbers.

You answered by saying there are a lot of partisans. 

This does not explain how states where Democrats heavily outnumber Republicans voted for the Republican for President.

That is correct, but it's *not* my point. There are a lot of partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans....just as there are moderate Democrats and Republicans.

So rather than provide an intelligent answer to the question you posted a non-sequitor that looked like a really dumb answer to the question.

Got ya.

No. You're suggesting that just because there are a lot of partisans that means that every Democrat and every Republican is voting with their party...that's not what I said at all.

Ok, explain to me what you meant when you answered that there are a lot of partisan democrats and republicans when asked to explain why four states with large democrat advanteges in party registration voted Republican.

Please answer without resorting to offensive smears or non-sequitors.


Where have I posted any offensive smears in this thread?? lmao..

That has nothing to do with my original point but I'll answer it. There's a lot of conservative Democrats, and not a lot of conservative Democratic politicians left. Please respond without assuming I'm some kind of idiot. Thanks.

I was just quoting Al.

So you are saying the divide is less partisan and more idealogical, correct?

For the record, I assume everyone is an idiot until proven otherwise.  This way I am correct more often than not.  In the rare circumstances where I am wrong, it is at least a pleasant surprise.
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