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Atlas Has Shrugged
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« on: March 23, 2017, 01:19:08 PM »

This is Europe's Syria. Sure, Kiev is a stable and isn't the Donbass but you can't expect the conflict to contain itself there. Of course there are going to be war related killings in Kiev. A suspect is alive and in custody (taken in at the scene). That doesn't sound like the Putin MO to me.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 02:22:14 PM »

Weren't the assassins of Kim Jong nam taken at the scene too?
Weren't they tricked?
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 05:58:14 PM »

This is Europe's Syria. Sure, Kiev is a stable and isn't the Donbass but you can't expect the conflict to contain itself there. Of course there are going to be war related killings in Kiev. A suspect is alive and in custody (taken in at the scene). That doesn't sound like the Putin MO to me.

you have a point of some kind but otherwise this guy wasn't part of the "normal" war.


Yes, but you seem to underestimate long-standing Russian policy on defectors.
Correction: the suspect is dead.

The Russians used to encourage defection. They used to tell elderly citizens back in the Soviet days how to defect should they get permission to visit the United States. Solzhenitsyn was deported to West Germany.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2017, 11:37:54 AM »

So, for the very staunch Putin supporters out there, is the explanation for these killings/attacks more "Fake news!" or more "They got exactly what they deserved"?
A combination of both. This guy could've been killed by Ukrainian anti-Putin activists for all we know-he was, in American parlance, for the invasion of the Crimea before he was against it. He wasn't from what I've read a particularly liked figure.

I mean, I could make a joke about how the reporter who fell down the stairs happened to be a drunk, but that doesn't matter. Putin killed her because he's evil but at least Castro gave the Cubans healthcare, amirite?
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