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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« on: September 17, 2016, 09:34:16 PM »

Sounds like a poorly executed ISIS inspired attack by the surface. Thank God the bomber/bombers weren't very good at their "craft."
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 09:49:31 PM »

We wait and we wait and it seems to me that we always reach the same conclusion eventually, so I don't see why this fetish with caution in considering the obvious has to do with anything. Of course, assuming the suspect is inspired by ISIS doesn't mean that it has to do with Islam. I feel that most of the attacks that involve ISIS inspired (IE, not directed from Raqqa like the Paris attacks) are more to do with the fact that some screwed up kid is using the Islamic State and their perverse interpretation of Islam to justify his heinous acts. Case in point, Omar Mateeb.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 10:05:16 PM »

Could be neo-nazis but could be jihadis...most likely confused children who think they are those things.
Neo-Nazis would have been my guess had they not targeted the Veterans event in New Jersey. While obviously all veterans are not Neo-Nazis, a number of Neo-Nazis are veterans (think Bo Gritz, Tim McVeigh etc).

CNN says that there might be other bombs in the area. Probably is true, but I suspect from the limited information that has been released is that they won't go off since the explosions have been pretty poorly executed. I guess that is good news?

We wait and we wait and it seems to me that we always reach the same conclusion eventually, so I don't see why this fetish with caution in considering the obvious has to do with anything. Of course, assuming the suspect is inspired by ISIS doesn't mean that it has to do with Islam. I feel that most of the attacks that involve ISIS inspired (IE, not directed from Raqqa like the Paris attacks) are more to do with the fact that some screwed up kid is using the Islamic State and their perverse interpretation of Islam to justify his heinous acts. Case in point, Omar Mateeb.

Because caution is always a good path when it comes to emotive issues.

Atlas would rather be the first to saying anything.
At the end of the day, whoever did this, be they anarchists, IS sympathizers, Neo-Nazis, rando religious cult, etc, will have their day at court. This event doesn't have any profound emotional impact aside from empathy for the victims and won't change my opposition to the relatively statist anti-terror measures that both Trump and Clinton espouse.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 10:39:31 PM »

There is 0 evidence linking the events in New York and those in St. Cloud, and actually quite a bit pointing towards there being no link at all.
The only link I can imagine is that the MN suspect heard the news about the NJ explosion and triggered him to act. He probably, like the perpetrator in New York, probably had no contact whatsoever with any ISIS members at all. Like I said, both events are basically Orlando but without the carnage.
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