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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« on: March 21, 2016, 03:33:35 PM »

Am I the only one who is feeling sorry for the President? I support the Cuba opening and I strongly support the President's visit, but so far it has been a disaster.

Raul Castro didn't greet Obama at the airport, and instead made him travel to the Palace of the Revolution to kiss his ring.

Then, Castro did this today to make sure that Obama would return home to the wolves. Obama usually has a good poker face, but he knew exactly what was going on when Raul did this and his face showed it.

Lastly, I'm sure Fidel will show up uninvited and get in the picture with Obama. That is the last step in the process. The Castros are dragging Obama around like he's some type of parlor game.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2016, 04:21:34 PM »

Slamming the U.S. on human rights isn't wrong.
....while keeping hundreds of dissidents in prison at the same time?
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2016, 10:48:08 PM »

Slamming the U.S. on human rights isn't wrong.
....while keeping hundreds of dissidents in prison at the same time?

I'm not saying Cuba is perfect either, but my fellow Americans need to realize we're not as saintly as often indoctrinated.
Of course not, but who are THEY to judge? Who are anyone to judge? With the exception of Canada perhaps, we're probably #1 in the world in terms of not having literally any political prisoners. 
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 05:17:10 PM »

Slamming the U.S. on human rights isn't wrong.
....while keeping hundreds of dissidents in prison at the same time?

I'm not saying Cuba is perfect either, but my fellow Americans need to realize we're not as saintly as often indoctrinated.
Of course not, but who are THEY to judge? Who are anyone to judge? With the exception of Canada perhaps, we're probably #1 in the world in terms of not having literally any political prisoners. 


You can nitpick and probably find something every country has done that wasn't morally right. We may not have political prisoners, but we have also committed war crimes and torturing is not something I support. The CIA papers released information that we did torture innocent people at Gitmo.

I stand with Obama's opinion that the embargo needs to be lifted. This isn't the Cold War anymore. Cuba is not the enemy. Look at Brussels and the perpetrators of the attacks. That is the enemy.

I also laugh when people stand in opposition to lifting the embargo or having some kind of relations with Cuba when one of out biggest allies is Saudi Arabia.
I also am in favor of ending the embargo, stopping aid to the brutal Saudi regime, and closing Gitmo. Sure. That's all good.

Still doesn't change the fact that Cuba was and is worse when it comes to human rights.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 09:29:39 PM »

Slamming the U.S. on human rights isn't wrong.
....while keeping hundreds of dissidents in prison at the same time?

I'm not saying Cuba is perfect either, but my fellow Americans need to realize we're not as saintly as often indoctrinated.
Of course not, but who are THEY to judge? Who are anyone to judge? With the exception of Canada perhaps, we're probably #1 in the world in terms of not having literally any political prisoners. 


You can nitpick and probably find something every country has done that wasn't morally right. We may not have political prisoners, but we have also committed war crimes and torturing is not something I support. The CIA papers released information that we did torture innocent people at Gitmo.

I stand with Obama's opinion that the embargo needs to be lifted. This isn't the Cold War anymore. Cuba is not the enemy. Look at Brussels and the perpetrators of the attacks. That is the enemy.

I also laugh when people stand in opposition to lifting the embargo or having some kind of relations with Cuba when one of out biggest allies is Saudi Arabia.
I also am in favor of ending the embargo, stopping aid to the brutal Saudi regime, and closing Gitmo. Sure. That's all good.

Still doesn't change the fact that Cuba was and is worse when it comes to human rights.

So while Cuba may be worse, it might not equate to them being wrong when they criticized us.
Might? No, it is wrong for them to criticize us on human rights issues. The embargo is different, but when it comes to our own human rights situation, they have no right to talk. At all.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 10:45:34 PM »

US has always been and remains the major force for human rights in the world. This is why, not being an American, I love that country.

What? Have you been sleeping for the last two administrations?






I totally agree with you, for whatever it's worth. But this is accepted as part of life in Cuba. It isn't here.
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