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ChairmanSanchez
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« on: February 08, 2014, 01:31:29 PM »

Douchebags should have the freedom to be douchebags.

And if he hates people on welfare for "spending his money", wouldn't this idiot want to attract them to his restaurant and have them spend it there, so he can "regain" it?
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 02:48:08 PM »

This place should certainly be shut down.
I agree. Sanitation violations and redneck assholes usually have a correlation.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 07:34:54 PM »

Shut the restaurant down, throw him in jail.

A little extreme? I mean, aside from a few very offended people, what harm has he caused (financial, reputational or physical)?

What harm does discrimination ever cause to anyone?
Hurt feelings. If that was a crime, we'd all be in jail.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2014, 03:58:16 PM »

Shut the restaurant down, throw him in jail.

A little extreme? I mean, aside from a few very offended people, what harm has he caused (financial, reputational or physical)?

What harm does discrimination ever cause to anyone?
Hurt feelings. If that was a crime, we'd all be in jail.

Now, while I do agree that this guy seems like an utter and absolute joke, the statement you made on it's actual grounds seems to really understate the effects of discrimination.  We had a Civil Rights movement for a reason, after all.  Discrimination has had a damning effect on this nation, on both non-white and white people.  I'm sure if your Catholic cousins were alive in 1892, they certainly wouldn't feel welcomed by the general society of the time that would view them as papist criminal scum.
The Civil Rights Movement was an effective and necessary solution to a problem that plagued its time. This type of blatant discrimination existed long before the 1960s and will exist long after. The only difference is that society is much more tolerant, and places run by jokes like this tool are one in a million. I don’t see why taxpayer money should be used to fight the legal battle needed to shut down his dump. Racism doesn't end. It didn't end with the Civil Rights movement, and taking away an assholes business won't solve any problems.

Shut the restaurant down, throw him in jail.

A little extreme? I mean, aside from a few very offended people, what harm has he caused (financial, reputational or physical)?

What harm does discrimination ever cause to anyone?
Hurt feelings. If that was a crime, we'd all be in jail.

Why, yes, that is the sort of thing a white person would say.
Way to contradict yourself.

Shut the restaurant down, throw him in jail.

A little extreme? I mean, aside from a few very offended people, what harm has he caused (financial, reputational or physical)?

What harm does discrimination ever cause to anyone?
Hurt feelings. If that was a crime, we'd all be in jail.

I'm pretty sure discrimination caused more than hurt feelings.
In the 1960s, when a black man would be beaten and murdered for trying to enter an establishment like this, sure.

Shut the restaurant down, throw him in jail.

A little extreme? I mean, aside from a few very offended people, what harm has he caused (financial, reputational or physical)?

What harm does discrimination ever cause to anyone?
Hurt feelings. If that was a crime, we'd all be in jail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_stress
Cool. I'm stressed out because I have been trying to build relationships with certain classmates and seem only to be scorned. Should I have them thrown in jail for "stressing me" out?

It is sad that we live in a country where black men are afraid of the police. Its sad that we live in a country where an unarmed teenage African American male wearing a hoodie can be gunned down in the streets. Those are problems in America, not some tool in a trailer park. All I am reading about this incident is pearl clutching; why don't we tackle the institutionalized racism of the war on drugs and the military instead?

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 03:38:12 PM »

Cool. I'm stressed out because I have been trying to build relationships with certain classmates and seem only to be scorned. Should I have them thrown in jail for "stressing me" out?
Sanchez, to put it bluntly, institutionalized racism is far more damaging to people than you not being able to get along with your peers.  Now I'm willing to guess, and by all means correct me if I'm wrong, that you live in a pleasant, fairly affluent, fairly tame neighborhood with all things considered.  Not all people have that luxury, and if you happen to be non-white, chances of you enjoying that are quite slim.  Surely you can understand that living in an environment where social and economic conditions are hostile to your kind is a bit different than what you experience?  After all, blacks have to deal with the exact same social pressures as you, plus the stigmas that are associated with race.
I see you didn't read the last paragraph of my last post. A restaurant owner in Oklahoma is not part of "institutionalized racism." African Americans in my neighborhood (btw, I live on a quiet, almost exclusively white street that happens to be in the heart of the African American corner of my town) and I don’t see any “whites only” locations. I don’t see African Americans sitting in segregated I-HOPs. This form of racism is largely dead.

I wasn’t talking about larger societal problems. I am not talking about the fact that black people can’t walk down my street without the neighbors getting suspicious, or that black people are afraid of interacting with the police, or afraid of being shot for being in “the wrong neighborhood” for no reason what so ever. Those are problems that need to be addressed. Racism didn’t die with the CRA, and it is never going to die. So instead of punishing ignorant people like this restaurant owner in Oklahoma, why don’t we talk about the actual problems, like the War on Drugs.

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 05:27:36 PM »

Cool. I'm stressed out because I have been trying to build relationships with certain classmates and seem only to be scorned. Should I have them thrown in jail for "stressing me" out?
Sanchez, to put it bluntly, institutionalized racism is far more damaging to people than you not being able to get along with your peers.  Now I'm willing to guess, and by all means correct me if I'm wrong, that you live in a pleasant, fairly affluent, fairly tame neighborhood with all things considered.  Not all people have that luxury, and if you happen to be non-white, chances of you enjoying that are quite slim.  Surely you can understand that living in an environment where social and economic conditions are hostile to your kind is a bit different than what you experience?  After all, blacks have to deal with the exact same social pressures as you, plus the stigmas that are associated with race.
I see you didn't read the last paragraph of my last post. A restaurant owner in Oklahoma is not part of "institutionalized racism." African Americans in my neighborhood (btw, I live on a quiet, almost exclusively white street that happens to be in the heart of the African American corner of my town) and I don’t see any “whites only” locations. I don’t see African Americans sitting in segregated I-HOPs. This form of racism is largely dead.

I wasn’t talking about larger societal problems. I am not talking about the fact that black people can’t walk down my street without the neighbors getting suspicious, or that black people are afraid of interacting with the police, or afraid of being shot for being in “the wrong neighborhood” for no reason what so ever. Those are problems that need to be addressed. Racism didn’t die with the CRA, and it is never going to die. So instead of punishing ignorant people like this restaurant owner in Oklahoma, why don’t we talk about the actual problems, like the War on Drugs.



Because humans are obviously too dumb and limited to tackle multiple issues at the same time?
You really think this guy in Oklahoma is as big of a problem as the justice system sends a young black male to prison for twenty years for a crime that I would only be fined for? You think this one single individual in Oklahoma is as damaging to the self esteem of African Americans as the justice system?
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 06:38:30 PM »

You really think this guy in Oklahoma is as big of a problem as the justice system sends a young black male to prison for twenty years for a crime that I would only be fined for? You think this one single individual in Oklahoma is as damaging to the self esteem of African Americans as the justice system?

Why do you keep saying the government can't address both?  So if they enforce the interstate commerce clause the way they have been for decades that means they can't reform the "War on Drugs"?!  Do you have any evidence to support this assertion?

I mean a straight forward interstate commerce clause case is pretty easy to prosecute.
But what would prosecuting him really do? Besides pissing off every other racist? We could do both, but it seems to me that making an example out of this guy would be a convenient excuse to ignore the actually serious issues.

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