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Atlas Has Shrugged
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« on: October 23, 2011, 02:33:56 PM »

Why should the Federal government be giving out loans. The states should be doing these programs.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 02:49:33 PM »

Why should the Federal government be giving out loans. The states should be doing these programs.

Why do conservatives/libertarians worship the 'states"?

It's not because of the Constitution, btw. There are plenty of parts of the  Constitution that conservatives and libertarians ignore/dislike.

Because, the US is made up of 50 sovereign "states". "States". A state is a country, not a province. The logic behind the Federal government was to keep peace between the states and protect them as a whole. Not to pay for your higher education.

Tell me, what do Conservatives ignore in the Constitution, and dont use the PATRIOT ACT as an example, that is NOT Conservative.
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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 02:57:17 PM »

Why should the Federal government be giving out loans. The states should be doing these programs.

Why do conservatives/libertarians worship the 'states"?

It's not because of the Constitution, btw. There are plenty of parts of the Constitution that conservatives and libertarians ignore/dislike.

Name some.

4th Amendment
14th Amendment
16th Amendment
17th Amendment
Necessary and Proper Clause
Commerce Clause

Search and Seizure--PATRIOT ACT. The Patriot Act was supported by Neoconservatives, like Bush and Cheney, not Paul.

14th Amendment--Stop playing the race card. Birthright citizenship is something we oppose to people whose parents were not born in the US or are here illegally. Not the anchor baby thing either.

16th Amendment--Thats theft. Your taking from one person to help another. That, while not having a bad motive, is still theft.

17th Amendment--Granted, I don't know why anyone would oppose this.

Necessary and Proper Clause--Obama is just as bad with executive orders as anyone else is/would be.

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ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 05:11:46 PM »

Of course he does. Admittedly, it would certainly bring tuition down.

Why don't these people get to the point and just announce they want to go back to the Articles of Confederation?
Ok. I want to go back to the Articles of Confederation Tongue.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 06:06:46 PM »

Why should the Federal government be giving out loans. The states should be doing these programs.

Why do conservatives/libertarians worship the 'states"?

It's not because of the Constitution, btw. There are plenty of parts of the  Constitution that conservatives and libertarians ignore/dislike.

Because, the US is made up of 50 sovereign "states". "States". A state is a country, not a province. The logic behind the Federal government was to keep peace between the states and protect them as a whole. Not to pay for your higher education.

Tell me, what do Conservatives ignore in the Constitution, and dont use the PATRIOT ACT as an example, that is NOT Conservative.
LOLOLOLOL. Should we try the whole secession thing again?'
edit: somebody brought out his true colors before me
If the Federal government crosses its boundries, then yes, I believe the states have the right to secede. Are the people of South Sudan bad? They are slaughtered. Yes, we are not slaughtered here, and it will NEVER happen, but the principle of the matter should be on the table. I don't advocate secession, but I would support it if, for whatever reason, (most likely nuclear/zombie disaster) if it had to happen.
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