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« on: October 02, 2008, 07:05:12 PM »

The format was chosen to favor Palin. She will give some sound-bites in her canned answers, and will try to avoid any real debate. Even if somehow she "wins" it, McCain is still in deep sh**t.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 08:12:01 PM »

As expected it's a bunch of bullsh**t sound-bytes from Palin that sound reasonable if you're not listening too hard.

Anyways, don't those soccer-moms and hockey-moms not care about having jobs? Who cares about them in terms of the economy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 08:13:33 PM »

More efficient, like wasting $1 trillion on Iraq?

The $42k lie is back.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 08:14:33 PM »

Is the new thing this year not to look at your opponent when your debating them? Whats up...? shes just staring blankly at the screen when she talks...

She's a stylish propaganda robot machine.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 08:15:18 PM »

Who cares about taxes in Alaska, they get all their money from the oil companies, and so they don't have the revenue problems that the other 49 states do.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 08:15:49 PM »

The poor already lost the class warfare.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 08:18:05 PM »

lol!  Palin just admitted that she's not going to answer the questions asked of her.

Well, why would she start now?

Looks like the McCain team coached Palin to look at the camera like Obama did and Biden is talking to the moderator like McCain did.

They just looked at each other some.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 08:18:40 PM »

The main detail: "DON'T GET SICK"
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 08:21:31 PM »

Biden says "Bridge to nowhere"....
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 08:23:21 PM »

Wow, the Democrats here are getting pissed.  It's either the latent misogyny talking, or Palin is actually doing well.

Correct, I want real economic solutions, so I am a misogynist.


Biden is getting annoyed. He is on the verge of entering patronizing territory. His last response was unnecessarily abrasive, especially the ending.

Palin though looks like she is on anti-depressants.

Maybe it's the same thing that Bush was on in the last 2004 debate.


McCain will say anything to anyone to get elected.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 08:24:11 PM »

Break up a monopoly? What BS.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 08:25:09 PM »

Palin is attacking Obama for giving tax breaks to oil companies. I think she's just saying whatever she thinks will go over best.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 08:28:28 PM »

Palin is doing a terrible job on the facts, and answering questions, but if someone is just watching style and doesn't pay much attention to the facts, her performance doesn't seem so bad.
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 08:30:12 PM »

How silly of Biden to actually answer the question rather than switching to some other topic to have bullsh**t sound-bytes.

Palin is just in lala-land.
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 08:31:52 PM »

Gaffe, Palin says she's not one to attribute every activity of man to the climate.
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2008, 08:33:07 PM »

What is she talking about on global warming..... rambling on and not making a coherent point on this issue.

She has a coherent point on issues?
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 08:35:46 PM »


Now she's mentioning raping with oil.
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 08:37:09 PM »

She seems fairly competent to me. I mean, I'm no longer as scared about her being VP. Even though she's not directly answering the questions that well, she is certainly doing better than the couric interview.

She doesn't even stick to the questions, she just spouts out some sound-byte bullsh**t.
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 08:38:23 PM »

The traditional definition of marriage: something you do 1 month after you're knocked up.
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 08:39:34 PM »

It's pretty obvious that the moderator isn't favoring Biden by spending all this time on gay marriage.

"My answer is the same as his", didn't Obama get attacked for this from the first debate?
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 08:40:42 PM »

Uh-oh, I'm nervous.  Foreign policy isn't exactly her strong point.

She can see Russia from somewhere 1000 miles from her house, and she's been to Kuwait.
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Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 08:42:26 PM »

Uh-oh, I'm nervous.  Foreign policy isn't exactly her strong point.

She can see Russia from somewhere 1000 miles from her house, and she's been to Kuwait.

That's lovely, but Obama has no foreign policy experience either.

What counts as foreign policy experience?
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 08:44:03 PM »

Sometimes they aren't even answering the questions being given to them

Apparently Gwen Ifill has been so shellshocked by predictions of perceived bias that she isn't even demanding that they answering questions.  It's almost as if the rightist editorials had no intention of trying to remove her as moderator, but rather just to scare her into failing to follow up any questions, thus ensuring that Palin's perkiness and generally more pleasant appearance and demeanor would be the deciding factor.  Actually, an incredibly brilliant strategy, now that I think about it.  Downright Rovian.  And I think it may just be working.



That's pretty much the norm. Meanwhile Tom Brokaw will be in the tank for McCain.
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 08:45:15 PM »

I liked the five second pause before the white flag

Bush waited 30 seconds to get his information.
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2008, 08:47:07 PM »

Everyone should carry around a white flag tomorrow.
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