The immigration debate is over

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Clinton wins.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800613.html

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In 1999, no one was seriously searching for terrorists within the US.  In 2004, all domestic services were.  Gee . . . a concept missing from the article.  Hmmmmm

Sorry, but JFern is right that Clinton was more inclined to act to enforce laws against illegal immigration than Bush.

See link:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50684

I never said he didn't.  I'm just pointing out what was lost in the article . . . that our resources are currently geared to protect the country from attack, and not spending the time creating cases against employers.

Nice try at spin.

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Nice try at spin.

Is that it?

Ditto. Seriously jfern, if you want to refute his point - which may very well be valid and to an extent probably is - then provide evidence to the contrary.

Well, if the Dept. of Homeland Security was really short on resources, don't you think that they wouldn't be using their resources to track Texas legislators who were trying to deny quorum to a mid-decade partisan gerrymader?

And anyways, there's how much more money being spent on these Homeland security things now than in the Clinton adminstration? Of course part of that was due to Republicans watering down Clinton's anti-terror bill.
http://www.mikehersh.com/Republicans_sabotaged_Clintons_Anti-Terror_Efforts.shtml

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Nice try at spin.

Is that it?

Ditto. Seriously jfern, if you want to refute his point - which may very well be valid and to an extent probably is - then provide evidence to the contrary.

Well, if the Dept. of Homeland Security was really short on resources, don't you think that they wouldn't be using their resources to track Texas legislators who were trying to deny quorum to a mid-decade partisan gerrymader?

And anyways, there's how much more money being spent on these Homeland security things now than in the Clinton adminstration? Of course part of that was due to Republicans watering down Clinton's anti-terror bill.
http://www.mikehersh.com/Republicans_sabotaged_Clintons_Anti-Terror_Efforts.shtml

You going to have to do a lot better than a donation supported commentary site.

If you had looked more carefully, you would have seen that it has links to regular media sites.