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« on: June 10, 2006, 07:00:03 PM »

Ned Lamont said he would support the winner of the Democratic party. Why won't Joe Lieberman?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/10/194732/208
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2006, 07:28:48 PM »

With statements like this, he deserves to lose the primary. He got elected in 1988 with the support of the RNC, he spouted off right-wing talking points during the 2000 recount, and now he won't rule out leaving the Democratic party. Time to show him the door. He's not a team player.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 07:53:53 PM »

Also Lieberman is an ass for running for re-election in 2000, instead of devoting his full energies to making sure that we didn't somehow have the worst President ever get into office. Lieberman's insistance on running for re-election was basically him saying he didn't think Gore would win.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 08:42:19 PM »

I do not see any way that could result in him (Sen. Lieberman) losing the Democratic Primary, but if he did, under CT law, he has the right to seek the office as an Independent.

Lamont won't run as an Independent because he couldn't break 8% in the general election if Lieberman had the Democratic nomination.

No, Lamont won't run as an Independent because he's a Democrat.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 12:04:06 AM »

If Lieberman loses the Democratic primary, it would be very hard for him to make it on the ballot as an independent.

He would need to collect 30,000 signatures of registered CT voters ready the first day after the primary.

I really hope Lamont beats him and we can finally be rid of "Sean Hannity's favorite Democrat".

Well, basically he's got a few options

1. Hope that CT Democrats vote for someone who isn't sounding like much of a Democrat with his threats of running as an Independent. In this case, those would just be threats
2. Start openly collecting signatures now - not good for his primary chances
3. Start secretly collecting signatures - wait that isn't going to work
4. Thank Bush for having such a pathetic economy that he (Joe) hires all of the unemployed people in CT, he can get the signatures in 1 day
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2006, 03:11:48 AM »

Lieberman's insistance on running for re-election was basically him saying he didn't think Gore would win.

And he was right!

Worst VP candidate since..err...ever.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really?  You think Lieberman was worse than Thomas Eagleton or Dan Quayle?  If so, you must be in a highly medicated state.

The key word was candidate. Of course there are crappy VPs, like the two that kind of committed treason, Aaron Burr and John Breckenridge.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2006, 04:12:46 PM »

Lieberman once had a joint fundraiser with former Republican governor Rowland. Yes, the one that had to go to jail. His campaign is currently calling registered Republicans for money.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2006, 04:21:51 PM »

Lieberman once had a joint fundraiser with former Republican governor Rowland. Yes, the one that had to go to jail. His campaign is currently calling registered Republicans for money.

So?

He's running in a Democratic primary, which has people who might actually care about how many corrupt Republicans he's friends with.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2006, 06:13:47 PM »

jfern, I've received several calls from the RNC.  Cross-party fundraising must be in this season.

Reagan Raider, I don't think it's fair to call jfern a "troll."  He may be abrasive, but it's clear that he is not a troll.

You probably did something to get on their list. I've gotten tons of stuff from Democrats and nothing from Republicans.
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2006, 06:37:59 PM »

From the Political Wire:

"According to Hotline On Call, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee 'fully supports' Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) in his primary bid against Ned Lamont (D), 'and he refused to rule out continuing that support if Lieberman were to run as an independent.'

"Schumer explained that there were degrees of independence: 'You can run as an independent, you can run as an independent Democrat who pledges to vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader.'"


Supporting Lieberman in the primary I understand, but for the DSCC to support someone not a member of the party over a member of the party would be disgrace.

It's no wonder that the Democratic party can't win elections. I guess Schumer wants the DSCC to become irrelevant. Anyone with a clue will just donate directly to the competitive Senate races if they're going to waste money defeating the Democratic nominee in CT.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2006, 07:03:31 PM »

Lieberman is known as one of the most arrogant and elitist politicians in Washington.

And I suppose a millionnaire would be any less elitist?  Roll Eyes


Face it, most national politicians can afford to buy a house in the bay area.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2006, 07:38:35 PM »

I assume that everyone criticizing Lamont for not being a poor hates FDR?
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2006, 02:03:35 PM »

I assume that everyone criticizing Lamont for not being a poor hates FDR?

1. You have quite an obnoxious elitist streak don't you?
2. I'm not criticizing Lamont for not being working class. I am criticizing him for being dishonest and for having a distinctly patronising, paternalist attitude (in his policies at least).
3. And just to make this very clear, I don't like Lieberman either. For an example of why, look at his general line of attack at Lamont.

What is Lamont dishonest about, and how is he patronising and paternalistic? Yeah, I'm real elitist for saying that his not being poor isn't a valid criticism.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2006, 02:09:07 PM »


Himself. I did read his website you know... he seems to be projecting an image of himself that is totally false. O/c this be America, so that's normal...

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His policies have a certain ring of that to them. As does his blatent slumming.
Mind you, there aren't many "left-wing" Democrats you can't accuse of not doing that...

I think you're just biased against ""left-wing"" Democrats.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2006, 08:30:52 PM »

"That the war in Iraq has diverted far too many of our dollars, and too much of our attention, from our needs back home."

That statement alone I find questionable. Is he trying to say that our soldiers struggle in Iraq is not worth our attention?

Support the troops, bring them home alive.
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