Pete Buttigieg 2020 campaign megathread

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He's the only major candidate running with no known negatives.

LOL, you're not a major candidate if no one bothers to find any negatives on you.

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Based on what little polling data we have so far, Buttigieg's niche is wealthy white liberals.

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1117972745915121665

Surely when they learn about how he'll bulldoze their neighborhood, minorities will flock to him.

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I could easily see Buttigieg being the runner up to Sanders or Biden in the primary and then winning the nomination and defeating Pence in 2024 after Sanders or Biden lost the general to Trump.  This could be the most likely way he becomes president. 

By 2024, progressives will dominate the Democratic Party, this is Pete's only shot.

Err...Buttigieg is a progressive.

Nice try. Progressives don't say that it's too early to talk about policy.

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I could easily see Buttigieg being the runner up to Sanders or Biden in the primary and then winning the nomination and defeating Pence in 2024 after Sanders or Biden lost the general to Trump.  This could be the most likely way he becomes president.  

By 2024, progressives will dominate the Democratic Party, this is Pete's only shot.

Err...Buttigieg is a progressive.

Nice try. Progressives don't say that it's too early to talk about policy.

I forgot, when was it that you were given the role of deciding who's a progressive and who's not? Or is that some role Bernie supporters always have, deciding that all these female, black, gay candidates are not progressive?

There was a black lesbian Hispanic immigrant running here, and no one brought up the identity politics because she was the progressive. And in the last governor election, I voted for a progressive woman who had won twice before statewide, but 96% voted for non progressive men.

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Jill Stein got called an anti-vaxxer for far less than this.

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Jill Stein got called an anti-vaxxer for far less than this.

People had issue with the Green parties platform including Homeopathy. I'm sure Stein was wrongly called out, but she was still the Green Party nominee.

Homeopathy is a different issue. Stein's vaccine position that got her labeled an anti vaxxer was that she wanted qualified health professionals to decide what was mandatory.

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https://twitter.com/marcushjohnson/status/1137232572373786624


Bad tactics, man. Buttigieg is so color blind that he doesn't see the inherent racism of this stunt.

A white guy drinking beer with black guys is racist?

Okay 1960s George Wallace.

You can't be serious right now

Explain how it's racist?

Perpetuates the stereotype of black people drinking on 40s in the hood.

That's an amazingly specific stereotype that I've never heard of. I imagine you would have to be considerably old to be aware of it, if it even exists.

That's definitely a major stereotype, even though I knew plenty of white people who would drink 40s in public. The stores always put it in a brown paper bag so that it's not completely obvious what they're doing.

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LOL at how this sh**tty random mayor was hyped up so hard by the media.

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I would imagine a significant chunk of his support in South Bend came from the 25% Black population of the City (Although I haven't looked into precinct numbers from an historical perspective to see the voting patterns within the City).

It was a low turnout race where he barely got 8000 votes.

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I found Mayor Pete's answer on criminal justice reform refreshingly humble. It's nice to see a Presidential candidate who doesn't act like he can solve everything on the face of the planet alone.

The South Bend police department would probably be more than 6% black if he hadn't demoted the first black chief for uncovering how racist the department was.

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D) Your ignorant

And ignorant me always thought it was "you're".

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Buttigieg is polling 0% with AAs in the new CNN poll. Stick a fork in him.

Yeah, I like the guy, but this is an untenable position in a Democratic primary or even in the general election.

I think it'd be noble of him to drop out and start a PAC using the $20M he has to help elect down ballot candidates. Because at this point its nothing but a vanity run for him.

Tell that to the millions of gay teenagers who are being encouraged by his candidacy, and the millions of Democrats who are supporting him in the polls. He adds more than most other candidates.

Seriously, if you don't have anything interesting to add other than your hate boner for a candidate just stop polluting this thread with it. Some people are trying to have a substansive discussion.

Funny enough his support isn't especially high among LGBTQ.

Sanders 22
Biden 21
Warren 15
Buttigieg 15
Harris 8


https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6175837/Withman-Insight-Strategies-LGBTQ-in-America.pdf

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Pete Buttigieg hires former Goldman Sachs executive as national policy director

Democratic presidential contender Pete Buttigieg has hired a former Goldman Sachs vice president and Google executive to run his policy shop, his campaign announced Thursday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/18/buttigieg-hires-former-goldman-sachs-executive-as-policy-director.html

That is a major Red Flag. Why would he make such a stupid decision?

Not every Goldman person is automatically a crock (btw, I don't know the guy). But I fully expect the left to go after that.

But why would he voluntarily burden his campaign with such a walking attack point? That shows poor political acumen at best and a willingness to cozy up with Wall Street a worst.

He personally attended secret anti Bernie meetings with Democratic leadership, so no real surprise here. The meetings were held by Bernard  Schwartz, who personally did more to collude with China than the entire 2016 Russia thing amounted to.

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https://twitter.com/DJJudd/status/1161353495775272960

JESUS LADY.

I wasn't expecting something like this from his side. Quite embarassing.

Biden says that RFK lived another decade.

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It's disingenuous to say that Buttigieg flip-flopped on Medicare For All.

Medicare For All is a meaningless term.

Bernie originally invented it as a synonym for "single payer."

Then, in an attempt to obfuscate his true position and claim good polling numbers, he aggressively expanded the definition to be synonymous with "universal health care."

Once he got it into everyone's head that M4A = UHC, he's since retracted M4A to just "single payer" again, and insisted "everyone supports M4A!"  But that's because when people are asked about M4A, they think they're being asked about universal health care.  The exact same polls that show people supporting M4A show those same people opposing single payer.  Which is what Bernie+Warren are actually proposing.

it's a neat political trick.  But the outcome has been to just confuse everyone.

So what we're seeing here is that 1-2 years ago, when Sanders was claiming M4A means "universal health care", everyone supported it, including Buttigieg.  Now that the definition has been narrowed to just "single payer", he opposes it, as do the vast majority of Americans.

You act like there's something crazy about Medicare for All. That's literally Taiwan's healthcare system. It was based upon the US Medicare system, but for everyone.

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“Pharma lobbyists contribute to society, unlike the unwashed masses that support Bernie!” You sound like a Republican.

I didn't realize it was a contest.  If someone wants to help Pete why should Pete say "you don't contribute enough to society, get lost"?

Also I'd like to see who this "Pharma lobbyist" is.  The Sanders crowd loves to take small bits of someone's resume and exaggerate them x1000 to paint a caricature as part of their neverending smear campaign against anyone who's not Bernie.

They were probably a literal pharma lobbyist. "Progressive" California Democrats had an actual pharma lobbyist as their state chair that was "elected" in 2017, but then later got MeTooed.

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Remember that guy who said we shouldn’t worry that the Republicans are going to call us socialists and just stand up for what we believe in? Where’d he go?

Nobody cares what Republicans will call us. M4A as it has been promoted by Warren and Sanders is deeply flawed on a policy level and deserves to be critiqued for it.

What's deeply flawed is our current system. ObamaCare was a fail.

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Homophobia doesn't explain why Buttigieg had only 0% of blacks in his home state in a poll.

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Amazing how the media elevated some random sociopath over most of the field.

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All I see is a lot of envy and hatred against Pete Buttigieg in this thread.

Maybe a lot of people on here don’t like the fact that a young gay man has this much of success ?

Yet this is not representative: out in the real world, Mayor Pete has the best favorable ratings of all candidates, so he must be making something right ...

As for African-Americans: he has hired a black communications campaign director and many AAs are active for his campaign as well. He also presented a plan to improve the lives of AA further in the country.

Oh yes, his amazing plan to get black endorsers by putting anyone who don't reply to his e-mails on the list, or just claiming people are black when they aren't. And then his supporters claim homophobia for why minorities don't support him.

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Hot take, voters in Iowa and New Hampshire expect Buttigieg to be the nominee versus Pence, not Trump.  He would be the perfect foil.

The polls don't show that.

Biden 51, Pence 39
Sanders 50, Pence 39
Warren 46, Pence 42
Harris 44, Pence 43
Pence 43, Buttigieg 40

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Pete was only 14, but seems to have forgotten that it's not 1996 any more and that people aren't voting for a 1996 style Democrat.

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I think one could argue Buttigieg is more electable than Sanders in a state like Pennsylvania, specifically being a better candidate for the suburbs of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Same with Wisconsin and Minnesota. Perhaps Arizona as well. Beyond that it's hard to see other swing states where he would be a better candidate than Sanders. The African American vote will be a big unknown with him as the nominee.

Wow, I didn't realize that Chuck Schumer was a poster on this forum before. Here's what you said in 2016.

"For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin."