One last observation: Remember Clinton's mocking "the skies will open, angels will sing" bit? In 2016 she could have delivered the same words about Obama, unchanged, but with complete sincerity. (She could have used them to mock Sanders, though, albeit for slightly different reasons.)
I love(d) that clip.
Some people act like Hillary did a total 180 from 2008 to 2016, but being the "realism candidate" is one of the factors that was completely identical. I trusted her to handle Republican BS far more than I trusted Obama, which sadly turned out to be an accurate assessment. His naivete got him played by McConnell and the rest of the Senate Republicans countless times throughout his first term. By the time he realized their true nature it was already far too late.
Hillary would have been more competent at f**king us over than Obama. Thankfully, Obama was too incompetent to get his "grand bargain" through.
Wrong. Your buddies on the left would have been far less shy about holding Hillary accountable, or turning on her, for the slightest deviance from far left orthodoxy. With Obama they felt they had to cut him slack because he was likeable or something.
LOL, no one expected far left orthodoxy from either of them. We did expect that Obama wouldn't be a total neoliberal warmonger. Whoops.