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jfern
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« on: August 01, 2005, 04:21:20 PM »

Do you Republicans actually approve of Bolton?
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 04:27:20 PM »

Do you Republicans actually approve of Bolton?

Yes, I approve of Bolton.  About time we stop playing pussyfoot with NKorea and Iran!

You are far to the right of several Republican Senators. It's time that the Republicans on this board admitted that they are far to the right of the average American. 86% of Americans want a higher minimum wage. What fraction of people on this board want one?
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 04:59:34 PM »

Bolton will not be weak.  The authority of a UN Ambassador stems from the fact that he is the representative of the President of the United States to the world body.  The manner of his appointment does not change this central fact, it neither adds nor detracts.  Bolton is still the representative of the President of the United States to the United Nations.

Do you Republicans actually approve of Bolton?

Yes, I approve of Bolton.  About time we stop playing pussyfoot with NKorea and Iran!

You are far to the right of several Republican Senators. It's time that the Republicans on this board admitted that they are far to the right of the average American. 86% of Americans want a higher minimum wage. What fraction of people on this board want one?

How many Americans favor gay marriage?  How many on this board do?

John Ford wins!  What's my prize?

Just because this board is similar to the nation of a whole as a whole on one issue does not mean that they are far to the right of the nation as a whole on many other issues.

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jfern
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 05:04:35 PM »


A perfect graph of how uneducated the polling community can be on the effects of raising the minimun (read that as "not living") wage.

It didn't ask for Republicans elites like MODU to talk about how uninformed people are, it asked for what people wanted.
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jfern
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2005, 05:07:28 PM »

Bolton will not be weak.  The authority of a UN Ambassador stems from the fact that he is the representative of the President of the United States to the world body.  The manner of his appointment does not change this central fact, it neither adds nor detracts.  Bolton is still the representative of the President of the United States to the United Nations.

Do you Republicans actually approve of Bolton?

Yes, I approve of Bolton.  About time we stop playing pussyfoot with NKorea and Iran!

You are far to the right of several Republican Senators. It's time that the Republicans on this board admitted that they are far to the right of the average American. 86% of Americans want a higher minimum wage. What fraction of people on this board want one?

How many Americans favor gay marriage?  How many on this board do?

John Ford wins!  What's my prize?

Just because this board is similar to the nation of a whole as a whole on one issue does not mean that they are far to the right of the nation as a whole on many other issues.



What I'm saying is that the board is to the left of the country on gay marriage.  We're left on some things, right on others, invalidating jfern's point entirely.

Are members of this board really to the left of center of this? A rather sizeable minority of American support it, and for people 18-29 that is actually a majority.
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jfern
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2005, 05:16:46 PM »


A perfect graph of how uneducated the polling community can be on the effects of raising the minimun (read that as "not living") wage.

It didn't ask for Republicans elites like MODU to talk about how uninformed people are, it asked for what people wanted.

*slaps dipstick over the head for being a partisan color-blind idiot*  There is a big difference between what people want and what the people need.  I want the government to buy me a house, and I'm sure I can find a million people who feel the same way.  Does that mean they owe me a house?  Of course not.  Just because a majority wants something doesn't mean it's good for the country.

(And actually, according to the site from which that figure comes from, I'm an an "Upbeat," not an "Enterpriser.")

So you oppose the will of the people and think they're all idiots. even when it's 86%-12% when it disagrees with your right-wing Republican views? You are an extremist. I am in the moderate 86%, you are in the far right 12%. You can quit calling us 86% of American idiots. What makes you so smart, huh? ing hypocrite.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2005, 07:09:51 PM »

So you oppose the will of the people and think they're all idiots. even when it's 86%-12% when it disagrees with your right-wing Republican views? You are an extremist. I am in the moderate 86%, you are in the far right 12%. You can quit calling us 86% of American idiots. What makes you so smart, huh? ing hypocrite.

hahaha . . . nice try, bingo.  Because, according to your take on polls, you would be an extremist on the left for your views on gay marriage (for example) since the majority doesn't want them. 

See, the problem when polls like this are taken is people don't stop and think what the chain of events would be.  People think "Oh yeah, let them have more money" since they are following an emotional response.  However, bumping the minimum wage up to a living wage will do many more harm than good, which is why Congress has always been slow about raising it since it's inception.   Sheesh, it's like no one takes economic classes any more.

A lot more than 12% are pro-gay marriage.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2005, 07:10:57 PM »

The vast majority of Americans are either conservatives or liberals. Very few would classify themselves as populists.

Thinking about economic issues, would you say your views on economic issues are --  Very conservative, Conservative, or Moderate, Liberal, or Very liberal?
Very conservative (4.84%), Conservative (37.33%), Moderate (41.35%), Liberal (11.14%), Very liberal (2.06%)

Thinking about social issues, would you say your views on social issues are -- Very conservative, Conservative, or Moderate, Liberal, or Very liberal?
Very conservative (5.39%), Conservative (30.28%), Moderate (38.72%), Liberal (17.22%), Very liberal (6.50%)

Would you favor or oppose making marijuana legally available for doctors to prescribe in order to reduce pain and suffering?
Favor 74%, Oppose 22%

As you may know, the federal income tax cuts passed into law since George W. Bush became president are set to expire within the next several years. Would you favor or oppose making those tax cuts permanent?
Favor 52%, Oppose 41%

As you may know, Federal inheritance taxes currently apply to estates valued at more than $1 million. A new proposal would eliminate all inheritance taxes on estates over $1 million as well. Would you favor or oppose that proposal?
Favor 60%, Oppose 35%

Which of the following arrangements between gay or lesbian couples do you think should be recognized as legally valid -- Same-sex marriages, Civil unions, but not same-sex marriages, or Neither same-sex marriages nor civil unions?
Same-sex marriages (21.02%), Civil unions, but not same-sex marriages (32.16%), Neither same-sex marriages nor civil unions (42.52%), DON'T KNOW (3.20%), REFUSED (1.10%)

That gives you a majority in favor of civil unions or better.

Fiscally conservative is a cliche for people who don't realize that they're actually more liberal.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2005, 10:44:40 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2005, 10:54:57 PM by jfern »


A lot more than 12% are pro-gay marriage.

oooh, a whole 9% (depending on which poll you reference).

What a joke.

Every real poll has over 30% that are pro-gay marriage, and a majority for civil unions, and it's much higher amoung the 18-29 group that is overrepresented on this forum. 9%? You are ing busted. Change your avatar to that of the lying Republicans. You are a disgrace to Independents everywhere.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2005, 10:44:32 AM »


A lot more than 12% are pro-gay marriage.

oooh, a whole 9% (depending on which poll you reference).

What a joke.

Every real poll has over 30% that are pro-gay marriage, and a majority for civil unions, and it's much higher amoung the 18-29 group that is overrepresented on this forum. 9%? You are ing busted. Change your avatar to that of the lying Republicans. You are a disgrace to Independents everywhere.

*dies laughin*  Oh, you kill me.  hahahahahaha


LOL! Looks like losing election after election is really getting to jfern!

My side may have not done well with elections recently, but unlike your side, we haven't lost our integrity and still follow facts.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 11:17:51 AM »



HAHAHA . . . oh stop it!  hahaha

You claim that only 9% of Americans support gay marriage. Time for you to realize that you're living in a ing fantasy Republcan. I have no respect for you Republicans who can't face the ing facts. I've had enough of arguing whether a 94% correlation can be statisically significant with the reality impaired on this board.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2005, 10:59:09 PM »



HAHAHA . . . oh stop it!  hahaha

You claim that only 9% of Americans support gay marriage.

No, I said 9% more than the 12% you had mentioned your earlier analogy.  Was that not written clearly enough for you?   hehehe . . . quit grasping for straws.  You're looking desperate.

Sorry it's also more than 21%, you pathetic hack.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2005, 11:37:47 AM »


Sorry it's also more than 21%, you pathetic hack.

Oh, I'm sorry, you're right.  It's 21.02%.  *dies laughin* 

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Thanks for the laughs son.  You're a riot.  hahaha

Hmmm, no link. Probably not a recent reputable poll. Change your avatar to that of the lying Republicans already.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2005, 12:02:10 PM »

Hmmm, no link. Probably not a recent reputable poll. Change your avatar to that of the lying Republicans already.

hahaha . . . maybe you'll learn to read all the posts on here.
Keep it up though.  You're digging a bigger hole for yourself.  Soon enough, we might fill it in with water and have a pool party. WOOHOO!  hahaha


Thanks bud.  Seems like he's forgotten what's already been posted in the past.  Smiley


Post a link to the actual poll. I said recent. Those results are definitely off from some other polls.
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