BREAKING: Cruz and Sanders to debate Obamacare on CNN Next Tuesday

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This debate has something that was completely missing from the Presidential general election. Discussion of issues.

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This debate has something that was completely missing from the Presidential general election. Discussion of issues.

Not that hard this time with no Trump. Sanders and Cruz are both awful senators with awful ideas but they at least know their issues well enough.

Hillary's ads mentioned the issues even less than Trump's.

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So Ted Cruz has not answered any question tonight and no plan has been given. It looks like they want to repeal and run.

Bernie is too nice to say it, but here it is.

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Jesus Christ why do people insist on relitigating the primary? Living in yesteryear does absolutely nothing to advance progressive causes.

Anyways, I thought they both did what they usually did well but like I expected, Cruz never addressed what would happen to people who got healthcare, and Bernie failed to clearly articulate how he's gonna pay for Medicare-for-all.

The Clintons set progressive causes back decades, so I'm damn interested in having them not have control of the party any more.

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Jesus Christ why do people insist on relitigating the primary? Living in yesteryear does absolutely nothing to advance progressive causes.

Anyways, I thought they both did what they usually did well but like I expected, Cruz never addressed what would happen to people who got healthcare, and Bernie failed to clearly articulate how he's gonna pay for Medicare-for-all.

The Clintons set progressive causes back decades, so I'm damn interested in having them not have control of the party any more.

I think Clintons were toxic for Democrats, they couldn't shake of the skeletons but explain how it set progressive causes back?

Bill Clinton didn't attempt to move the country to the left the slightest after his first 2 years in office, and that 2 years included him getting a Democratic Congress to pass NAFTA. He has a long list of right-wing accomplishments, such as repealing Glass Steagal, telecommuncations deregulation, welfare reform, the Mickey Mouse copyright act, and numerous others. When he took office, the Democrats had had the House for 38 years. In the over 22 years since he lost it 2 years later, they've had it just 4 years. The party has had huge losses in state and local governments since then, too. Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election was such a utter disgrace, with DOMA, V-chips, and being open to abortion limitations being what he ran on.

And in 2016, they had the party take down an actual progressive, talked to Trump right before he announced, had the media give extra coverage to Trump, and managed to out Dewey Tom Dewey in losing to Trump.

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Jesus Christ why do people insist on relitigating the primary? Living in yesteryear does absolutely nothing to advance progressive causes.

Anyways, I thought they both did what they usually did well but like I expected, Cruz never addressed what would happen to people who got healthcare, and Bernie failed to clearly articulate how he's gonna pay for Medicare-for-all.

The Clintons set progressive causes back decades, so I'm damn interested in having them not have control of the party any more.

I think Clintons were toxic for Democrats, they couldn't shake of the skeletons but explain how it set progressive causes back?

jfern likes to live in a world where Republicans don't exist and that the only enemies of progress are DLC Third-Way Democrats, when in reality the party has moved significantly to the left this century and it hasn't netted them a whole lot.

He probably also thinks the country is craving Bernie-ism, when the most useful modern parallel, Corbyn in the U.K. is failing spectacularly at making left-wing populism a successful ideology.

I live in a world where crazy right-wing Republicans are in control THANKS to sh**tty 3rd way neoliberals.

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I owe jfern an apology. He was right, I was wrong. Clinton was a 3rd way candidate. The country has been waiting for the Democratic party to abandon 3rd way politics for well over a decade now, and the present situation is the result of the Democrats, repeatedly failing to rise to the challenge. However, I would say the main blame goes to the likable Obama, rather than Hillary. Obama papered over the problems with his two wins and allowed the party to avoid the day of reckoning. The Democrats must abandon 3rd way politics. I only hope it is not too late. Trumpist politics is truly frightening, particularly for the marginalized.

I'm glad you see it. Obama had the advantage of charisma and (in 2008) a short record on which people could project their hopes. And he was a lame duck when he tried to pass TPP, so that didn't hurt his own elections. We don't need a candidate as progressive as Bernie to win, but we need someone who fights for the common person.