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Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

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Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

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Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

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Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

You're ****ing insane if you think 1: the only options are Assad or ISIS and 2: anyone cares what a cracked out California thinks about an election in more-red-than-purple Ohio.

So your plan was to defeat Assad and ISIS at the same time? And I'm the insane one?

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I'm gonna go ahead and pick door number three out of that false choice and maintain my opinion that one shouldn't make excuses for war criminals. I'm not trying to solve the Syrian Civil War here.

I don't have a plan, but anyone who seems a complex matter of international affairs as a simple one of black and white is, well, blind. Basically what Castro said. But, this is off topic.

Kucinich used to be a pretty cool dude, and good ol' thorn in the side to the political establishment as a progressive populist. He's become a major wackadoo since he left Congress, and is considerably right-leaning.

Come on, no one is saying that Assad is a good person, but he's obviously better than ISIS. Obviously Assad, ISIS, and the Bush administration are all war criminals.

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And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

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And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

Yes. And it does not follow as any measure of common sense that being anti-ISIS necessitates being pro-Assad. Kucinich used to be a real anti-interventionist for moral reasons. Now he's a Gabbard-esque shill and husk of the progressive populist he used to be.

He's not pro Assad. He's just against funding jihadists that only help ISIS. Maybe he shouldn't have actually met Assad so that every dumbass thinks that he's pro-Assad, but he's not.

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And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

Yes. And it does not follow as any measure of common sense that being anti-ISIS necessitates being pro-Assad. Kucinich used to be a real anti-interventionist for moral reasons. Now he's a Gabbard-esque shill and husk of the progressive populist he used to be.

He's not pro Assad. He's just against funding jihadists that only help ISIS. Maybe he shouldn't have actually met Assad so that every dumbass thinks that he's pro-Assad, but he's not.

You're the one that thinks being anti-Assad = pro-ISIS...

Anyways, I didn't intend to steer this away too far from the main discussion, just pointing to an immediate fault I have with him, demonstrating fault in position and weakness as a politician, which I don't think is good for a candidate in this race.

Arming the jihadists, as the Obama administration was doing, is pro ISIS pro Al Qaeda.  Kucinch wasn't supporting doing anything to help Assad, just to stop arming terrorists. What has this country come to when it's considered controversial to not arm terrorists?

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Is Cordray still pro-gun I know he was endorsed by the NRA back in 2010?

No, he’s not.

He has an A rating from the NRA, and helped strike down Cleveland's assault weapons ban. He's far more pro gun than Bernie, whom the establishment pained as an NRA stooge. But the establishment doesn't care about consistency.