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jfern
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« on: July 06, 2015, 05:59:29 PM »

Whatever happened to IceSpear? I'm actually starting to miss him. It's like he dropped off the face of the earth.

I think he got sent to some reeducation camps to unlearn the inevitable meme.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2015, 08:16:03 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2015, 08:18:44 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Sanders, on a fundamental level, cannot be taken seriously as a "real threat". He preaches the benefits of a Nordic-style welfare state and heavy taxes on the wealthy. This sounds great, but Nordic-style welfare states can't actually function on "soaking the rich" alone (not to mention that they also need small, homogenous societies) All Hillary has to do is say that Sanders' is either planning to "raise taxes on working families" to upwards of 40% or simply talking fantasy.

10% of those making less than $100,000 a year pay more than 49% in taxes.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/jan/25/tammy-baldwin/middle-class-pays-higher-tax-rates-millionaires-se/

Anyways, if you raise income taxes on the rich, particularly capital gains, close loopholes that benefit the rich, and cut the military spending, you should have a lot to work with.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 02:06:53 AM »

Seth Masket is making sense:

http://www.mischiefsoffaction.com/2015/07/most-nomination-contests-have-bernie.html

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Also see Jonathan Bernstein, "Bernie Sander is no Eugene McCarthy" on why Sanders surging in the polls isn't going to draw any new challengers into the race by showing Clinton's "vulnerability".

However, Sanders can hold no hope of winning the nomination, yet still cause headaches for Team Clinton.  She would prefer to write the narrative of her own candidacy, but Sanders's strength may cause her to make detours from her own planned path to the presidency.  That is the sense in which he's a "threat".


Gee, things went so well with the "more electable" nominee in 1984.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2015, 09:18:14 PM »

Gee, things went so well with the "more electable" nominee in 1984.

You really think Gary Hart would've done much better?
#1 Yes, Mondale reminded everyone of the failed Carter years.
#2 I don't think Hillary thinks that she is in danger, she just knows that by saying she is the worry donations come flooding in.

In 1984, Hart would have lost, but certainly done better than Mondale. Hart wins in 1988 without that picture.
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