Checkmate, True Leftists

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"FDR was a neoliberal racist warmonger." - True Leftists, probably

Well, yeah, that's pretty much historical fact

Stop. Please.

Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen imo.

No, no. This is a thread about FDR, not Harry Truman... though it is easy to mix them up, as they are both neoliberal genocidal warmonger racists.

A neoliberal woudln't have created the CCC or vetoed Taft-Hartley.

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Seriously, people? 1934-38 = most economically left a majority party has ever been in US history.  Lincoln might have beaten this had he lived and actually brought about "40 acres and a mule" in 1866, but no other time period since the Founding even comes close to the mid 1930's.

It's a PRETTY big stretch to try to put politics into left vs. right (how we use the terms now) any time before the 1920s, IMO - Early 1900s at the earliest.

It depends on the person. Thomas Paine was certainly left.

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"FDR was a neoliberal racist warmonger." - True Leftists, probably

Well, yeah, that's pretty much historical fact

Stop. Please.

Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen imo.

No, no. This is a thread about FDR, not Harry Truman... though it is easy to mix them up, as they are both neoliberal genocidal warmonger racists.

A neoliberal woudln't have created the CCC or vetoed Taft-Hartley.

If he wasn't a neoliberal then how come he didn't abolish private property in its entirety?!

Why, might I ask, is President Roosevelt a neoliberal genocidal warmonger racist?

I'll try:

1) Neoliberal - Obviously, this makes no sense.

2) Genocidal - Nothing comes to mind.

3) Warmonger - As I recall, Adolf Hitler began WW2, and FDR did not start any wars during his presidency.

4) Racist -

Number four is certainly not outrageous, given that he vetoed anti-lynching legislation, appointed a Klansman to the Supreme Court and ordered the internment of an entire ethnic group...  If someone with an R next to his name had done any of those three, he'd be demonized as one of the true monsters of American history, regardless of his economic "accomplishments."

I agree that FDR was certainly racist by modern standards.  But so were ~90% of middle-aged adults in the 1920's and 30's.  I think there is a compelling case that FDR was less racist than the average American in his day and certainly less racist than the average 1930's Democrat.  And while Hugo Black was once in the KKK, he was also the strongest proponent of using the 14th Amendment to incorporate the Bill of Rights against the states and voted with the majority in Brown, Loving, and all the major civil rights cases except Harper (VA poll tax).  That's right, a former KKK member voted to strike down bans on interracial marriage!  Either he's a modern day St. Paul or he was never sincere about the KKK in his youth (he claimed the latter). 

Eleanor Roosevelt wasn't a racist.