Hillary Clinton talking A LOT of sense on foreign policy

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Shocking how willing people are to assume that we'd have known exactly how to support the Syrian rebels without also benefiting the groups that would go on to form ISIS. Or, for that matter, that Hillary Clinton can credibly claim to offer a departure from Obama's foreign policy without recalling her place in the pre-2008 public imagination as a cynical opportunist.

Forgive me for my lack of enthusiasm, but I'm not excited by the prospect of another US President who draws facile comparisons between Islamic extremism and communism, or who shrugs off civilian casualties in the passive voice ("mistakes are made").

More arms for the rebels probably would mean more arms for ISIS. The whole we should have armed the rebels so that the most successful rebel group didn't get too powerful argument is ridiculous.

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Internet debates on foreign policy are usually amusing. As we all know, you're either a hippie isolationist or a Cheney-esque warmonger. There is literally no middle ground. Ever.

Obama isn't a hippie isolationist, but that isn't warmonger enough for Hillary.

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Giving arms to anyone but the Kurds really would have been pure idiocy. It's clear that other support would have ended up with ISIS. McCain met with some "moderate" rebels last year, that included some future ISIS members. It was a bad idea in 2012 and 2013, and with hindsight in 2014 is an even worse idea. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea shouldn't be allowed within 10,000 miles of the White House.