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jfern
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« on: December 21, 2013, 12:24:50 AM »

At this point, the only hope of SSM opponents is that one of the five justices in the majority on Windsor leaves the Court and either Obama messes up and appoints a SSM opponent or that the GOP retakes the Senate next November and blocks all Obama nominations in hopes of having a Republican win the White House in 2016.  I just see no way that anyone who signed onto Kennedy's opinion in Windsor could uphold the existing SSM bans.  The only reason the court moved slowly was to give the country more time to change its views on its own before the inevitable decision is handed down.  The court does not want SSM to become another issue like abortion where it moved way ahead of public opinion and prevented it from forming on its own.

Don't you think some case is going to reach the Supreme Court before 2017 though?  I think the only real hope is either that Kennedy has a come to Jesus moment and decides to draw some arbitrary line in the sand or that one of the 4 Democratic appointed justices or Kennedy leaves the court suddenty and Republicans can delay a new appointment by an unprecedented amount of time.

Or maybe the Republican congress could take away the subject matter jurisdiction of the lower courts over same-sex marriage cases.  That's impossible too though because it would require a veto override or a Republican President. 

The time between the District court ruling and the Supreme Court decision in the prop 8 case was about 2 years and 11 months. So if this case were to follow a similar timeline we'd be talking about a decision in late 2016 or early 2017. We won't get a Supreme Court ruling before then.

Well, this case will be clearly different, since I imagine the Utah Governor and Attorney General will appeal, unlike in California. Jerry Brown forced Prop. 8 to be renamed  "Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California" and yet he ended up listed as a defendant. Hiliarious.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2013, 03:30:55 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2013, 03:32:32 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »


I'm loving your butthurt in this thread. I can virtually hear you seething.

It is glorious to see his whining. Simply glorious.

This is the ruling that will help lose Utah Democrats UT-04. Glorious for Mia Love.

LOL, all this will do is make Mia Love win by very slightly more. Matheson and other members of the House didn't get to vote on confirming this judge. As for Utah's 2 Senate Republicans, Lee and Hatch, they both supported the judge. Maybe they should be the ones losing votes, haha.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2013, 06:31:04 PM »

Utah Senator Mike Lee on Robert Shelby last year

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 03:46:57 AM »

For some reason I expected this thread to be getting way more posts. Gay marriage in Utah, LOL.
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