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jfern
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« on: January 26, 2005, 07:18:44 PM »

The media did a good job of demonizing him after he said that he wanted to regulate big media more.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 05:07:46 AM »

Dean's tirade is overrated. Still, I have some reservations about him.

Charismatic? I'm not convinced the guy can motivate anyone outside the extreme left of the Democratic party. He also may speak on health care reform, but he is a doctor and I have a hard time any doctor wants that. Those are two knocks I have on Dean. Although his tirade is overrated, I do have to ask about the possibility that he may say or do something foolish on an international stage which might hurt our position internationally(I know Bush does it all the time, but hey, 2 wrongs don't make a right).

I don't think it would be wise to run him in 08' simply because he's a northeasterner who probably won't flip more states in the electoral college than Kerry did. I have the feeling he won't be a great campaigner. Maybe good, but not great. I actually think Kerry did a decent job in his campaign. Anyway, I don't see him getting some of those states crucial to victory in 08 such as Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado, or other southwestern states(I think that was one of the most overlooked battleground areas last year).

One of his strengths are that he has an acknowledged position on the war. We all know it was the same Republican party that ran in 1964 as in 1968, and look at how different the results were. Who knows. Perhaps in four years, voters will crave change due to circumstances on the horizon in a manner which doomed the Democrats in 1968 and a guy like Dean will become electable. Couldn't do much worse than this current bunch. Still, I'd rather have a Warner or even a Reid as a politician.

He was a small time practicer, he doesn't own a ton of health care companies like Senator Frist does.

He can't run in '08 as DNC chair.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2005, 06:43:43 PM »

Dean is damaged goods.  The media will never let us forget about that scream.  I appalud his views on the war, but most of America will use that to just dismiss him.  His other views are too far Left for the average Democrat voter, but the Democratic leadership probably think he's too moderate. 

Getting back to the topic of this thread, I don't really dislike Dean as much as I disagree with him on a number of issues that are important to me.  If he were to be come the DNC Chairman it would mean to me that the Democrats continue to have the wrong vision for America (I'm not saying the Republicans have the right vision, they are equally wrong on a whole host of other important issues).


The scream was a smear job by the right-wing media.  If the best the media can up with is that he sounded angry on a direct feed from him in a noisy hall with a few thousand people where he could barely hear himself, then he's looking pretty good.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2005, 10:30:59 PM »

Dean is damaged goods.  The media will never let us forget about that scream.  I appalud his views on the war, but most of America will use that to just dismiss him.  His other views are too far Left for the average Democrat voter, but the Democratic leadership probably think he's too moderate. 

Getting back to the topic of this thread, I don't really dislike Dean as much as I disagree with him on a number of issues that are important to me.  If he were to be come the DNC Chairman it would mean to me that the Democrats continue to have the wrong vision for America (I'm not saying the Republicans have the right vision, they are equally wrong on a whole host of other important issues).


The scream was a smear job by the right-wing media.  If the best the media can up with is that he sounded angry on a direct feed from him in a noisy hall with a few thousand people where he could barely hear himself, then he's looking pretty good.

More like bloggers who posted it on numerous websites.
It was the mainstream media, J LOOSE-WITH-THE-FACTS
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 11:53:04 PM »

Has anyone ever heard from this Tim Kaine guy?
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