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jfern
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« on: October 26, 2004, 11:34:51 PM »

I've been asking myself for sometime why the Bush haters are so poisonous?

After listening to many of them, two salient points seem to apply.

First, the Bush haters are enraged that he has been so sucessful.

While the liberals could sucessfully cower Bush sr., Furd, and Nixon, they have been unable to cower Reagan or Bush Jr.

They tried to explain away Reagan's sucesses by calling him the 'great communicator.'  Cann't exactly say that about GW, who admits that his wife speaks better english than he does.

Second,  the remnants of liberal power in the federal government are primarily in the judiciary.  If Bush gets reelected, he's not going to appoint liberal judges.

The clock is ticking on many of the liberal judges on the federal court.  The grim reaper will soon be removing many of them.

Bush is sucessful. He's successful at running a country into the ground.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2004, 11:41:16 PM »


Bush is sucessful. He's successful at running a country into the ground.

You are confusing the word "country" with the words "liberal Democrats."

So only liberals lost jobs in the last 4 years? Only liberals lost money as the stock market has gone down? Only liberals have died for their country in Iraq? Gotcha.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2004, 11:55:18 PM »


Bush is sucessful. He's successful at running a country into the ground.


You are confusing the word "country" with the words "liberal Democrats."

So only liberals lost jobs in the last 4 years? Only liberals lost money as the stock market has gone down? Only liberals have died for their country in Iraq? Gotcha.

I hate to tell you this, but the stock market bubbly burst in 1999-2000, when the recession started.  In Iraq it was Saddam Hussien that was run into the ground, quite literally.  It was Bush that helped end the recession, the roots of which started in the late 1990's.   It was also Bush policies that got the majority of the 1 million jobs lossed due to 9/11 back.

All major stock market indexes are down since Jan 20th, 2001, not whenever you claim ehwatever started. Bush is over 800,000 jobs in the hole, and over 1.5 million private sector jobs. Your figures are wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2004, 08:35:48 PM »

As to the original question "Why are Bush haters so poisonous?" my answer is this:

"Wizard's Third Rule: Passion Rules Reason" - Terry Goodkind.

Quite simply, these people, along with other groups, have become so angry at something, or so obsessed with something, that it virtually consumes them. They become passionate about their hate, and because of that they lose the clear head required to reason and think things out objectively, and they become easily manipulated, because they want to hear bad things about Bush(or whatever their particular beef is). If they hear "Bush killed a puppy" they would believe it simply because they want to believe it - the won't care if it's true or not. Of course, the same goes for positives - become too obsessed with helping or liking something, and you will believe anything good you hear about it.

While there is much in what you have to say, my question would be why the extreme hatred for GW, as opposed to the contempt for either Furd or Bush pere?



Because they were merely so-so Presidents, not first rate mitigated disasters.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2004, 08:49:16 PM »

As to the original question "Why are Bush haters so poisonous?" my answer is this:

"Wizard's Third Rule: Passion Rules Reason" - Terry Goodkind.

Quite simply, these people, along with other groups, have become so angry at something, or so obsessed with something, that it virtually consumes them. They become passionate about their hate, and because of that they lose the clear head required to reason and think things out objectively, and they become easily manipulated, because they want to hear bad things about Bush(or whatever their particular beef is). If they hear "Bush killed a puppy" they would believe it simply because they want to believe it - the won't care if it's true or not. Of course, the same goes for positives - become too obsessed with helping or liking something, and you will believe anything good you hear about it.

While there is much in what you have to say, my question would be why the extreme hatred for GW, as opposed to the contempt for either Furd or Bush pere?



Because they were merely so-so Presidents, not first rate mitigated disasters.

You begin to prove my point.

Unemployment under both Furd and Bush the elder was higher than under GW, both presided over a collapse of their party, both had challenges for renomination, both betrayed their base and both were losers.

Bush's conviction and strenght (and effectiveness) really rankles liberals.

I never said they were good Presidents. However, Bush is the first President in 72 years to have a net loss of jobs. Yes, Ford and George HW Bush are the next 2 worst Presidents in that time period for that statistic.

Also, the stock market is down under Bush (I'm not sure what the statistics are on other Presidents for that).

Deficits are record highs, he lies about everything, he's totally screwing the environment, and he starts wars for none of the reasons he gives.

Yeah, he's a real great guy.
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