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« on: October 22, 2004, 08:09:10 PM »

Can't Florida do anything right with voting?

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2004/10/22/21546/270/0/post#here
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2004, 08:22:22 PM »

In my system, an eligable voter would have to own 1/5 of an acre of land.

And by the way, that was for one branch of state legislatures. Not voting in general, which would be different.

In my system, eligible voters would have to have a PhD from a real university. Democratic landslide.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2004, 08:24:28 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2004, 08:27:04 PM »

There are intelligent PhDs. Are most PhDs intelligent? No.

And I suppose you think you're intelligent?
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2004, 08:29:19 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.
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jfern
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2004, 08:31:14 PM »

I think that says basically everything you need to know about PhDs.

Yawn
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2004, 08:38:25 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.

And you wouls actually want them to be the entire electorate.

It was a response to Phillips 1/5 of an acre comments. Having a PhD is more of an accomplishment than owning 1/5 of an acre in some desert.
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jfern
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2004, 08:39:53 PM »


Then what is it about?
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jfern
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2004, 08:44:18 PM »

Umm yeah, the 2 billion people should have most of the power.
But the Senate would screw them, anyways.
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2004, 08:48:25 PM »

They should be able to govern all that land, despite having no connection to it?

1. The Senate would block them
2. You Republicans were for states rights before Bush vs. Gore
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2004, 08:49:56 PM »

I propose that we admit Canada as the 51st state, and let them decide everything for us, since they have more land area than the US.
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jfern
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36

« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2004, 08:51:56 PM »

In my ideal system, only intelligent people would be allowed to vote. Republican landslide, 100%.

So PhDs aren't intelligent?

Do you actually know many Ph D's?

Yes, I do.

And you wouls actually want them to be the entire electorate.

It was a response to Phillips 1/5 of an acre comments. Having a PhD is more of an accomplishment than owning 1/5 of an acre in some desert.

It depends how they got that land.  If someone working for thirty years to buy it, it would be a greater "accomplishment" than someone who's family gives him a lot of money to pursue some minor field.
Yeah, well a lot of time they inheirit the money or land, and how much does 1/5th of an acre of desert cost, anyways?
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2004, 08:55:22 PM »

I'm illustrating a political reality. You're correct that the U.S. Senate would block them. Doesn't work that way at the state level.

Pretend it's one big state, and the red area is one county.

I'm from upstate NY, and I wouldn't care if downstate NY has control over the entire state. Yawn.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2004, 08:56:52 PM »

why should 1 million people spread out have more of a say than 1 million people clustered together?

Yeah, you know. They seem to get a lot more anti-terrorism money. If I'm a terrorist, where am I going to strike? Rural Wyoming or downtown Manhattan. Hmmm, I don't know....
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2004, 08:58:43 PM »

Because the right to rule does not come in numbers

Says who?

I say one penguin 1 vote. Let's admit Antartica.
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2004, 09:00:43 PM »

If you're in a community, you deserve some say

If you're not, shut up and mind your own business

Huh?
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2004, 09:03:22 PM »

It's not a city's business what the rest of the land does

Why? Cities subsidize people living in rural areas.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2004, 09:07:59 PM »

The people as a whole pay to spread things like education throughout the state. So what?

House = Everyone
Senate = Landowners
Governor = 24

Millionaires subsidize poor people. I guess we should give everyone 1 vote per dollar they pay.

Why should land count? Dude, you're crazy.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2004, 09:30:22 PM »

No. I think that's what the requirement should be, but the rules don't change for me.

They have a say in the legislative branch. Anyway, it's only one gubernatorial election they're missing out on.

Not if don't own 1/5 of an acre.
Why do you hate NYC?
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2004, 09:38:10 PM »

No, you wouldn't have to own 1/5 on acre of land to vote. Just in one branch of the state legislature.

Why? So that NYC could get more screwed?
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2004, 09:41:18 PM »

So people outside of NYC could get less screwed

Alternate system: give everyone 1 vote for every percentage of their income they pay, mulitplied by three

NYC subsidizes the rest of the country, and then gets hardly any anti-terrorism money, even though they are the ones who were attacked, and rural Wyoming gets tons of anti-terrorism money. Why exactly should we screw NYC some more?

What about slaves counting as 3/5ths of a person? Do you support that too?
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2004, 09:47:45 PM »

Millionares subsidize poor people.

I don't support slavery. But as long as they were there, they shouldn't have counted as a person (because they can't vote).

Millionares wouldn't have sh**t without the working poor and the government.
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2004, 09:52:11 PM »

You mean people working willingly for set wages?

Willingly not starving to death? LOL.
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