If Bush is so good on terror, why are we so scared?

[Scorpio]

Does anyone have any idea how much time and investment (both monetary and human) it would take to gaurd every single port, railroad, bridge and building in America?  The United States would be bankrupt, literally, we could not raise the amount of money needed.  This is not to mention economic collapse do to the strain on the workforce.

This is why Bush, in his wisdom, has decided that the War of Terror is a real war, not a police action.  It is literally impossible to stop all terrorist threats at home, that is why we need to go abroand and take the conflict to them, so they can't get over here.  The narrow-mindedness involved in supporting the Kerry possition is astounding.

Declaring war on a noun is pretty silly to begin with.


The Republicans / Bush, let's face it, it's Bush... want the American public to be affraid.

Fear is used as a political tool to control the masses and influence public opinion.

The conventional wisdom tells us, the more scared we are, the more likely we will elect Bush (The first time!).


I think America is pretty sick and tired of being "scared".


Let's run this through the washer again, Bin Laden attacked us, so we went to war in Iraq.

Yeah, this really makes sense to me.

[Scorpio]

Some of you guys are just going overboard here.

I mean Terrorism hasn't just killed 3,000 people what about the people who were killed and the damaged caused in the U.S.S. Cole bombing, the suicide bombings, the first WTC bombing, the night club bombing. I mean yes Cancer is a threat but cancer can't buy a nuke off the black market, it can't sneak it into a country, and it can't blow it up and the last time I checked a gun and a car can't do that either. Terrorism also threatens the world and both the sponsors of it and the terroists themselves both must be dealt with

Then why are we in Iraq?

[Scorpio]

Some of you guys are just going overboard here.

I mean Terrorism hasn't just killed 3,000 people what about the people who were killed and the damaged caused in the U.S.S. Cole bombing, the suicide bombings, the first WTC bombing, the night club bombing. I mean yes Cancer is a threat but cancer can't buy a nuke off the black market, it can't sneak it into a country, and it can't blow it up and the last time I checked a gun and a car can't do that either. Terrorism also threatens the world and both the sponsors of it and the terroists themselves both must be dealt with

Then why are we in Iraq?

There was evidence that Saddam had WMDs which he could have sold to terrorists organizations plus he was paying Palestinians Bombers Families to blow up Israelis. Putin even said that Iraq was planning an attack on America

The question is not meant to inflame.

It is a serious question when you get right down to it.


Case in point: You mention Saddam paying Palestinians for suicide bombings inside Israel.

How is this a threat to the United States.

You say: Even Putin said Saddam planned to attack America.

I ask: With what?  And with what army?


I'm sorry, but the argument that Saddam was a threat to the United States is simply just silly at this point.

Also, the "intel" argument is equally weak.  There is/was no intel to suggest otherwise.


Fighting those who would commit acts of terror against the United States should be the first and only priority for our government.

And Iraq does not fit into that equation.


Wrapping one's party in the flag and shouting slogans like "With us or against us", really isn't what the country needs.

[Scorpio]

Scorpio,

Saddam supported Terrorism by paying those people to bomb innocent civilians. And sadly it doesn't take an army to attack another country plus Putin isn't going to do Bush any favors I'm shocked that he even said that the Russians had that intelligence.

Here are a few questions for you Scorpio why did Saddam kick the U.N. inspectors out if he was clean? Why wouldn't he let them back into Iraq?

From everything I know of Saddam he was power hungry he wouldn't give up his control of Iraq for nothing.

Sorry.  I don't have a crystal ball and won't attempt to look into the mind of Saddam.


Saddam wanted what all men with power want.

More power.

However, that being said:


I find it ironic that Republicans continue to support the notion of going to war in Iraq, after everything that has come out about the failed intelligence, and the lack of WMD.

I mean, is it the Bush - "I can't admit a mistake" disease?


Here's the skinny.  Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11.

Bush elected a war of choice on Iraq.  

Please explain how this makes sense?

[Scorpio]

Again,

Iraq did have WMDs. Did seek Uranium. Both have been proven.

Saddam is guilty of aiding and abetting terrorists. Fact.

So again prove me wrong?

There is no need to prove anyone wrong.


I won't split hairs on this.

Iraq was not a clear and present danger to the United States of America when George W. Bush "decided" to wage war there.

The war in Iraq has weakend our ability to fight "real" terrorists.

If all of the, "yeah but he...." arguments make you feel better, have at it.

They do nothing for me.

[Scorpio]

Again,

Iraq did have WMDs. Did seek Uranium. Both have been proven.

Saddam is guilty of aiding and abetting terrorists. Fact.

So again prove me wrong?

There is no need to prove anyone wrong.


I won't split hairs on this.

Iraq was not a clear and present danger to the United States of America when George W. Bush "decided" to wage war there.

The war in Iraq has weakend our ability to fight "real" terrorists.

If all of the, "yeah but he...." arguments make you feel better, have at it.

They do nothing for me.

I know I was mistaken. I should never let the facts get in the way of any democrats belief. To do so would be a waste of breath.

Okay.  If it makes you feel better, but I'm right.


Iraq was not a clear and present danger to the United States of America.  Iraq has no connection to Al-Qaeda.


Bush chose a pre-emptive war based on lies and misinformation.

I'm truly sorry you have such a hard time with this, but I don't want to upset you further, so let's just leave it as I will support John Kerry and you can do whatever you want.

There, everyone happy?