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« on: February 10, 2016, 10:14:26 PM »

Trump will be able to unleash a slew of attacks at Sanders that Clinton would never be able to in the Democratic primary.  Socialism would be just the tip of the iceberg, and Trump has no limits.

I think most of the people in this thread are underestimating Trump by quite a bit.  I wish I could share you guys' optimism.
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2016, 10:24:01 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2016, 10:26:03 PM by Mehmentum »

Hillary and Sanders would both win NH versus Trump. I just think Bernie's margin would be a lot more comfortable than Hillary's.

Yes, but NH is not a swing state.

Indeed, I misread the OP.

Trump will be able to unleash a slew of attacks at Sanders that Clinton would never be able to in the Democratic primary.  Socialism would be just the tip of the iceberg, and Trump has no limits.

I think most of the people in this thread are underestimating Trump by quite a bit.  I wish I could share you guys' optimism.

I'm more concerned that people might be more excited to vote for Trump, especially since turnout has been so much higher this time around for the Republicans. Sanders can compete in terms of getting turnout up, I think Hillary would struggle.
But can Sanders actually compete?  In New Hampshire, GOP turnout was much higher the Democratic turnout.  This is a state that's basically tailor made for Sanders, and yet Democrats are still losing the turnout game.  If Sanders was actually able to bring in droves of voters like Obama did in 2008, why are Democrats being overshadowed in one of Sanders' strongest states?

And the Sanders coalition is only a part of the Democrats' turnout game.  Hispanics have incredibly low turnout, and African American turnout is in danger of dropping once Obama is off the ballot.  Clinton is stronger than Sanders with both of these groups.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 10:36:51 PM »

Hillary and Sanders would both win NH versus Trump. I just think Bernie's margin would be a lot more comfortable than Hillary's.

Yes, but NH is not a swing state.

Indeed, I misread the OP.

Trump will be able to unleash a slew of attacks at Sanders that Clinton would never be able to in the Democratic primary.  Socialism would be just the tip of the iceberg, and Trump has no limits.

I think most of the people in this thread are underestimating Trump by quite a bit.  I wish I could share you guys' optimism.

I'm more concerned that people might be more excited to vote for Trump, especially since turnout has been so much higher this time around for the Republicans. Sanders can compete in terms of getting turnout up, I think Hillary would struggle.
But can Sanders actually compete?  In New Hampshire, GOP turnout was much higher the Democratic turnout.  This is a state that's basically tailor made for Sanders, and yet Democrats are still losing the turnout game.  If Sanders was actually able to bring in droves of voters like Obama did in 2008, why are Democrats being overshadowed in one of Sanders' strongest states?

And the Sanders coalition is only a part of the Democrats' turnout game.  Hispanics have incredibly low turnout, and African American turnout is in danger of dropping once Obama is off the ballot.  Clinton is stronger than Sanders with both of these groups.

If Sanders deploys a great GOTV effort, then yes he can compete more comfortably than Hillary could.

A lot of GOP turnout could be due to the fact that there are a lot more candidates competing than on the Democratic side, and Trump benefits from exciting his support with his rhetoric.
Even with African Americans and Hispanics, who have been lukewarm to his candidacy, and form a crucial part of the Democratic coalition?  Color me skeptical.

As for the number of candidates thing... well I guess we'll find out pretty soon whether that's the case, but I suspect that its not the reason.
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