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Redalgo
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« on: September 24, 2014, 07:35:14 PM »
« edited: September 24, 2014, 07:36:45 PM by Redalgo »

The think tank is not entirely wrong. Liberals are generally more self-indulgent, hedonistic, and prone to lapses of opportunism than their conservative counterparts. They have fewer qualms about defying authority figures, bucking social expectations, using their bodies like amusement parks, and betraying allies if the outcomes do no violence upon anyone and do not cheat them of what they seem to deserve. Liberals are also, statistically, more likely than conservatives to compromise on their principles in order to make utilitarian tradeoffs, doing a bit of evil to bring about good in situations where conservatives would generally remain steadfast in their refusal to get what they want through a sacrifice of personal integrity.

Clearly there is a lack of understanding involved here when it comes to freedom and how to respond to dissent, however, and perhaps that can be chalked up to the foundation's well-known conservative spin in much the same way one would expect a report from the Brookings Institute or Center for American Progress to stand by progressive interpretations of reality.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2014, 07:53:10 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2014, 08:09:25 PM by Redalgo »

Defying authority isn't the same as being self-indulgent.

Your are right, and I am not conflating the two, but insisting on individual freedoms is indulgent - as are many of the choices people make to exercise those freedoms in contradiction to the expectations of duty to friends, family, community, or country. There are many instances where what feels like good judgement or benign fun to someone with progressive sensibilities appears decadent, impure, irresponsible, selfish, etc. to a person with a more traditional outlook.

For better or worse our camp doesn't hold itself up to all of the lofty standards that apply on the Right. Likewise, conservatives tend to fall short of our narrower, yet more intensely valued set of expectations.
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