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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2012, 04:13:27 PM »

Chicago Public School enrollment has plunged 17% in the last decade with the fine job done by these teachers.

http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Philadelphia_Research_Initiative/Closing-Public-Schools-Philadelphia.pdf



One wonders whether the number of teachers employed by CPS has plunged in the same fashion. It would be highly astonishing for there NOT to be school closures that the union is whining about!
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krazen1211
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2012, 05:48:09 PM »

Chicago Public School enrollment has plunged 17% in the last decade with the fine job done by these teachers.


As it has in most urban areas...your point?

No one cares about this strike btw...


Obviously with a plunging school population, teachers need to be fired and schools need to be closed.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2012, 06:30:38 PM »

Why?

If they need to reduce the work force it can be accomplished easily through attrition.

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Their compensation structure makes it far more logical to get rid of the worst dinosaur tenured teachers.

See charts.

http://illinoispolicy.org/blog/blog.asp?ArticleSource=5041


In their own words, you can get 3 new teachers for the price of 1 old one.


The unions of course went to court to keep the high paid dinosaurs and Karen Lewis is making a fuss about school closures.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2012, 07:19:41 AM »

Their compensation structure makes it far more logical to get rid of the worst dinosaur tenured teachers.

See charts.

http://illinoispolicy.org/blog/blog.asp?ArticleSource=5041

In their own words, you can get 3 new teachers for the price of 1 old one.

The unions of course went to court to keep the high paid dinosaurs and Karen Lewis is making a fuss about school closures.

Good lord man, you realize this line of thinking makes all raises impossible or very short-lived - just like in the private sector.  Anyone who gets a raise over time will inevitably be fired and replaced by someone cheaper.  Can't you see that this destroys any possibility of well-being, progress, or a decent life for ALL workers?

Not at all. One merely needs to display added value with something more than grey hairs.

Of course, displaying 3x added value is a tad more difficult than 1.5x added value.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2012, 08:00:13 PM »

Why?

If they need to reduce the work force it can be accomplished easily through attrition.

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Their compensation structure makes it far more logical to get rid of the worst dinosaur tenured teachers.

See charts.

http://illinoispolicy.org/blog/blog.asp?ArticleSource=5041


In their own words, you can get 3 new teachers for the price of 1 old one.


The unions of course went to court to keep the high paid dinosaurs and Karen Lewis is making a fuss about school closures.
You're quoting 'facts' from a decidedly anti-union 'think tank'. I'll seek a more unbiased source personally.

BTW: would you be upset krazen to discover the average member of the IL Policy Institute-yeducators, if you will--earn notably more than $75k per annium? It's a tax-exempt non-profit, and undoubtedly it's well-healed contribtors and sugar daddies would have more money in taxes to pay if they didn't have to support such over-paid educators, right?


You are quite a confused fellow. The Chicago teachers themselves claim that you can hire three young teachers for the price of a lavishly overpaid dinosaur.

But i suppose your post would be mildly upsetting if the IL Policy institute employed 30000, comparable to the size of the public sector legions attacking the treasury.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 10:55:37 AM »

I don't know what that is, but I find it funny that you think the collapsing student population of Chicago deserves 1 teacher rather than 3.
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