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Question: What would you favor for Troy Davis ?
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Author Topic: Georgia to execute death row inmate tomorrow, who could possibly be innocent  (Read 7399 times)
krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 21, 2011, 10:22:18 PM »

Executed. Smoke and mirrors claims did not hinder justice today.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 10:52:08 PM »

Executed. Smoke and mirrors claims did not hinder justice today.

I'm sure krazen has done more research on this thread topic beyond reading its title.  I'm sure of it.

Certainly quite a bit more than the peanut gallery here, including you, obviously, since the reference flew over your head.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 10:53:12 PM »

I don't know why people are so surprised clemency was denied.

Here's the supposed killer:




And here's the victim:




You figure it out.

Are you implying that the jury that sentenced him to die was not majority black? Surely not.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 07:46:01 AM »

Are you implying that the jury that sentenced him to die was not majority black? Surely not.

Ah, so if the majority of the jurors are the same race as the defendant, then erroneous testimony and bad evidence is acceptable?

The accusation of racism is certainly curious. The accusation of erroneous testimony naturally held little weight because Davis and his lawyers ensured that it was hearsay.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 07:49:04 AM »

There weren't "dozens of witnesses". There were 9, of whom 7 recanted, one of whom confessed to the crime himself (not something you're likely to do to protect "your homie"). Take your racism elsewhere.

The fact of the matter is that jury convictions, even incredibly unjust jury convictions, are extraordinarily difficult to overturn, to the point of absurdity. The standard of overturning a jury conviction is literal "proof of innocence", which is just plain impossible for the vast majority of innocent convicts. The Supreme Court made their decision 9-0 because the standard of "proof of innocence" is impossible to meet. There may have been twenty years of appeals, but none of those appeals really stood much chance of exonerating the innocent. A big part of the problem is the irrational respect for jury verdicts.

(In answer the original question, declare a mistrial and start all over--he might well have been guilty, but it certainly was never proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Also, no death penalty regardless, obviously.)

Correction, since you're playing fast and loose.

Coles did not confess. Rather, others claimed he confessed.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 08:19:52 PM »

http://www.gasd.uscourts.gov/pdf/409cv00130_92part1.pdf

http://www.gasd.uscourts.gov/pdf/409cv00130_92part2.pdf



Great opinions from a Democratic recommended judge appointed by a Democratic President confirmed by a Democratic Senate.
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