The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

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Haven't seen this in the 2020 board:

Last Friday, Steve Bullock was on Morning Joe and talked about the bad influence of money in politics and about showing up in rural areas to make up ground for Democrats. Still declined to answer whether he'll run: Video

The guy comes over as likeable, has definitely a message and a strategy how to win.

I'm a big Steve Bullock guy. 20% of Trump voters in Montana also voted for him. He's pro-gun, but pro-common sense, pro-net neutrality, runs on a platform of unity across all ideological leanings, comes across as Bernie-esque in terms of potential appeal minus the whole s-word thing.

Because of all that, though, he won't win. It's a shame that the Democrats will end up nominating another candidate who plays the I'm Not Trump/identity politics card, only to get crushed in the states that are more willing to support a candidate like Bullock.

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Haven't seen this in the 2020 board:

Last Friday, Steve Bullock was on Morning Joe and talked about the bad influence of money in politics and about showing up in rural areas to make up ground for Democrats. Still declined to answer whether he'll run: Video

The guy comes over as likeable, has definitely a message and a strategy how to win.

I'm a big Steve Bullock guy. 20% of Trump voters in Montana also voted for him. He's pro-gun, but pro-common sense, pro-net neutrality, runs on a platform of unity across all ideological leanings, comes across as Bernie-esque in terms of potential appeal minus the whole s-word thing.

Because of all that, though, he won't win. It's a shame that the Democrats will end up nominating another candidate who plays the I'm Not Trump/identity politics card, only to get crushed in the states that are more willing to support a candidate like Bullock.

Couldn't agree more. Steve Bullock with a female and possibly minority running mate like Kamala Harris would be pretty tough for Trump. I still hope the Democrats are smart enough.

Bullock and Beto is my pick, but I think Bullock and maybe Tulsi Gabbard could be alright

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It's a shame that the Democrats will end up nominating another candidate who plays the I'm Not Trump/identity politics card, only to get crushed in the states that are more willing to support a candidate like Bullock.

A candidate acknowledging that they are a woman and/or a person of color is not identity politics. Sending troops to the border to combat a "caravan" of defenseless brown women and children to win an election is identity politics.

Anyway I hope Bullock or Beto is the nominee because they both will make compelling candidates against Trump. Frontrunners like Biden, Warren, Booker, Harris, and Sanders will fall flat for a variety of reasons.

You're right, but the Democratic Party nominating a woman and/or PoC so that they can paint the difference between their candidate and Trump as "minority versus racist cheeto" is not good praxis. The Democratic Party likes to take pride in the fact that Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams, Andrew Gillum, the Castro bros, etc. all fall under their big umbrella, but they use them as tokens. They think just by nominating one of those people for POTUS, they can claim a moral victory...even if those candidates get destroyed in the general. One of the many reasons Hillary got beaten (humiliated) was because she did not stick to the issues. She just expected to win solely by virtue of not being Donald Trump, ergo not a racist/sexist/bigot/deplorable.

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Maybe I'm stupid and wrong, but I don't think anybody in the Democratic Party takes moral victories. Also Hillary has heavy on substantial issues while Trump had no policy beyond "make America great again." Americans don't give a crap about policy, they want something to rally around. Hillary was not that person, and she almost won just because of how toxic Trump is.

You're not stupid or wrong, but Trump represented a rejection of the political status quo. Hillary represented that status quo. People got sick of being talked down to. They want someone who will talk to them like adults, talk to Trump like an adult, and tell them (in plain language) how they will help them directly. Americans are afraid of the unknown. They fear the nebulous "socialism" because all they know about it is that they've been taught their whole lives that it's bad. However, they're willing to accept socialistic policies when they're broken down to plain language. Just look at Obamacare--it was absolutely despised when it was referred to as "socialized medicine" and now repealing it is political suicide in a lot of areas of the country...even some GOP areas. Americans will vote for a Democrat who breaks their policy platform down to language they can understand.

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Wow. So Harris and Brown could form a ticket for the primary.

I'm an enthusiastic Harris backer, but she would instantly lose my support if she actually went with this.

Literally why?

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Literally why?

To throw away his Senate seat unnecessarily would reveal a staggering lack good judgment.

The White House is more important than the Senate.

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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1090350542990307329

This tells me that he's taken all the backlash to heart. His tone in recent days has been that he wanted to get into the race imminently. Like, February or March imminently.

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Schultz is planning trips to the early primary states for some reason:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/howard-schultz-likely-to-visit-early-primary-states-as-he-considers-2020-run.html

Not sure he realizes that there are no primaries if you’re running as an independent.

Oh my god, he's managing to out-Trump Trump.

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schultz have every right to run. he can win in washington state in general election.

No he doesn't and no he can't.

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Doubt Booker announces on a Friday or Super Bowl weekend, next week is the SOTU so probably not then either.

Boy, this aged like milk.

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Biden potentially not running because he thinks the party is moving left is the best news to come out of this election cycle yet.

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The Democratic Party is too far to the left.....

The Republican Party is too far to the right.....

This is why people are Independents

Boy, wait til you find out about the Communist and Nazi parties.

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Is there any chance Beto announces he's running tomorrow during his interview with Oprah?

There's a better chance that he officially says he's out.

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Hickenlooper, Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Klobuchar, O'Rourke? Lots of last names that are not so pleasing to the ear in this primary.

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"Finally, the event no one has been waiting for." - Kevin Kruse

https://twitter.com/carolinerkenny/status/1093225882750251009

I feel like a lot of people are going to watch this just to jeer him.

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A Sanders campaign source in NH says Sanders is likely to decide on a run by the end of the month:

https://www.wmur.com/article/nh-primary-source-sanders-close-to-decision-on-second-presidential-run/26229520

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So I guess "announcing imminently" means "thinking about making a decision within a month", got it

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Buffalo, New York Mayor Byron Brown is considering a longshot bid for President and/or VP.

https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/02/08/yes-byron-brown-should-run-for-president/?fbclid=IwAR0CAujPr29dHwXPoqRw09uXuBT6a3mpBe32vO8z86J6q9uKABM0_EfGbrg

Former Chair of the NYS Democratic Committee, NYS Senator, and Clinton 2016 superdelegate. Also, Mayor of Buffalo, New York.

"Buffalo, New York Mayor [...] Also, Mayor of Buffalo, New York."

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Buffalo, New York Mayor Byron Brown is considering a longshot bid for President and/or VP.

https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/02/08/yes-byron-brown-should-run-for-president/?fbclid=IwAR0CAujPr29dHwXPoqRw09uXuBT6a3mpBe32vO8z86J6q9uKABM0_EfGbrg

Former Chair of the NYS Democratic Committee, NYS Senator, and Clinton 2016 superdelegate. Also, Mayor of Buffalo, New York.

"Buffalo, New York Mayor [...] Also, Mayor of Buffalo, New York."

Has a Pete Buttigieg sig /s

That uhhhhh.......wasn't the point. It was the redundancy of the way you wrote that sentence.

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As much as I love Steve Bullock and I'd love for him to run, I think he'd be best suited hoping for a cabinet position in the next administration. Maybe he could do Energy or Interior.

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I'm still holding out hope that Biden doesn't run. What would it take for him to pass on running?

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CITIZENS  FREEDOM  PARTY NEWS RELEASE -We are proud to announce that Mark B Graham of Okeechobee Florida is seeking the party nomination  for President in 2020
 

Well, the race finally has a clear front-runner.

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I'm still expecting Swalwell, Hickenlooper, and Inslee to enter the race, too. Bloomberg and Merkley probably stay out.

I'm hoping all of the above stay out, except for maybe Inslee. I want Bullock to enter the race, but I think the field is pretty set as is. Inslee would be great to really bring climate change back to the forefront of the discussion.

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Isn't the problem for Beto that if he runs for the Senate he'll be out of contention for the Veepstakes? That seems like a big argument in favour for running for President.

Or a big argument in favor of him hitting the campaign trail either way because he really wants to be Veep.

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I see more people talking about Buttigieg than him right now.

I like Castro, but I'm really happy Pete is getting his chance to talk to the nation right now.