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Napoleon
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« on: November 24, 2011, 02:46:17 PM »

I can support this one.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 03:40:39 AM »

why would the regions be limited in the threshold needed for a popular vote? that is a peculiar lack of latitude given the other options allowed.

I don't understand what this complain is trying to get at, sorry. Could you clarify?

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..What? I'm sorry, again, I feel like you're not understanding something here. 3 is designed to keep regional legislatures from abruptly changing the ratification procedure all the time if the current ratification procedure didn't lead to an outcome of their liking. Do you understand what this Amendment is doing? That is an honest and genuine question. I'm not entirely sure what's ambiguous about it.

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Why should that be the case? Not that I'm necessarily opposed, but, this is treading dangerously close to just also allowing regions to outright restrict votes. A quorum, specifically, seems like an unfair thing to institute. I'm certainly in favor of allowing regions to tinker with their own ratification procedure, but there must still be some standard of fairness.

Why limit region's to using a majority vote instead of, say,  2/3? Why would regions be able to legislate amendment ratification processes rather than making it constitutional?
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 08:13:52 PM »

How is this at all preferable to holding a nationwide referendum?

I wish we'd do it, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

There's no reason it can't happen, except that people are stupid and knee-jerk reactionaries.

Be nice.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 08:27:34 PM »

How is this at all preferable to holding a nationwide referendum?

I wish we'd do it, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

There's no reason it can't happen, except that people are stupid and knee-jerk reactionaries.

Be nice.

I'm suprised I'm going to say this, but he got a good point. While I'm far from call you stupid or reactionary, remembering your examplary senatorial service just few weeks ago, your recent record of reforms is nonexistent and I'm still waiting to understant why have you adopted such an approach.

What? One of my reform ideas is on the Senate floor right now. It has probably been less than a month since an entire Constitution I created was passed. I'm offended by your comments. Marokai and Xahar's misplaced commentary isn't the word of God.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 05:56:07 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 10:01:15 PM »
« Edited: December 04, 2011, 10:02:49 PM by No Good Napoleon »

Abstain
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 07:34:57 PM »

Change mine to aye.
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