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Junior Chimp
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« on: August 27, 2011, 12:34:22 PM »

I'm not exactly sure why "liberals" are so upset about the thought of the most hostile voting area (short of the intermountain west) leaving. Or so hysterical about the sort of states rights that could result in legalized gay marriage, euthanasia, pot, etc.. Seems pretty irrational.
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2011, 12:42:52 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2011, 12:45:00 PM by paul who is a ghost »

Right, because when someone says they are a neo-confederate, you immediately think of states rights issues such as legalization of gay marriage, pot etc. Roll Eyes Absolutely ridiculous.

I wasn't speaking about them, I was speaking about the modern left's knee jerk attachment to the federal government. Obviously I don't believe the dittoheads, beckites, etc. when they talk about local rule or individual rights, especially after 8 years of Bush.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2011, 05:11:50 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2011, 05:15:35 PM by paul who is a ghost »

Right, because when someone says they are a neo-confederate, you immediately think of states rights issues such as legalization of gay marriage, pot etc. Roll Eyes Absolutely ridiculous.

I wasn't speaking about them, I was speaking about the modern left's knee jerk attachment to the federal government. Obviously I don't believe the dittoheads, beckites, etc. when they talk about local rule or individual rights, especially after 8 years of Bush.

Why would you be surprised that most liberals are very defense of the federal government when it's institutions are very much bastions of the social order that we support? Nearly all criticism of the federal government is targeted towards the EPA, Department of the Interior, Education, race relations and not civil liberties. It's also quite obvious that when conservatives like Rick Perry are peeing their pants over the federal government, they'd gladly keep using it to curb gay rights. I'm just concerned about advancing civil rights and equality in all areas and am willing to use any layer of government whether it's local, state or national to do it. Government is an instrument, not an end goal.

But many people seem literally, offended by mentioning the phrase "states rights" or the 10th amendment in any context. Note I didn't mention federal programs anywhere in that post, just a state based approach to policy making on various hot button "social issues." You know the ones people like GWB, Perry, Bachmann, etc. are constantly bringing up at the federal level regardless of how irrelevant, minor or unlikely to be resolved (all the better!) they are compared to other concerns. You would think liberals would be more inclined to say those are state matters but I rarely see them even concede that.
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