Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act (Law'd)

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

This whole  bill is heavy handed towards our most vulnerable citizens. We need to do the exact opposite of the entire bill. We need to expand our pipelines and build new ones. We need to have the goal to be an energy exporter. TNF, what's your problem witt Bakken fracked shale oil or Alberta tar sands oil? We need to continue their transport and drill in our own territory.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Upon my swearing in I will fight to repeal this provided that it passes.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Upon my swearing in I will fight to repeal this provided that it passes.

Which will be fought in turn.

As I would expect.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

May I ask you why in particular you oppose this? What is wrong with this bill in your eyes?

Are you aware of the current gas prices? Higher gas and energy prices make for less discretionary income. As our (Atlasian) economy hasn't fully recovered. We should be about promoting growth economically. Allowing the Keystone pipeline and opening ANWAR for drilling will reduce prices in the long term. In addition I suggest converting our vehicles to natural gas which we have enough of(several hundred years if not more) to utilize until we can find an efficient and cheap means of using green energy to fuel our vehicles.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

We already have some of the lowest energy prices in the word. Even with Atlasia's modest carbon tax, these prices do not fully reflect the social costs associated with burning fossil fuels.

Reducing energy prices across the board encourages waste and discourages conservation. Lower per unit prices should not be a goal of our energy policy.

Those carbon taxes are turned into higher prices. In a sense forcing conservation. That is not the governments place.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

The reason I am defending the current funding on natural gas is we need a transition point between what we are utilizing right now and the renewables with regards to our transportation industries. Natural gas is one of the cleanest non-renewables and we have enough of it to cover any transition time needed to a strictly renewable set up (like hydrogen fuel cells).

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Motion to delay final vote

I purpose the following amendment

Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act

1. No new oil pipelines shall be constructed or existing pipelines expanded with the aid of federal funding, effective upon the passage of this legislation.

2. The total sum in federal funding saved through the provisions in Clause 1 of this bill shall be apportioned to the sum in federal funding for energy drawn from renewable sources.[/quote]

3. The The Federal Government of Atlasia shall divest and sell it's held pipelines at fair market value to any and all Atlasian bidders

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[MyRescueKittehRocks]

I will not delay the final vote.

What are your reasons to not delaying the final vote even though I have proposed an amendment?

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

I will not delay the final vote.

What are your reasons to not delaying the final vote even though I have proposed an amendment?

Because the final vote has already begun and I do not feel that your amendment would pass even were I stop the final vote and instead begin another vote on your amendment. It is frivolous and therefore not worth considering.

You're no longer PPT.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

I will not delay the final vote.

What are your reasons to not delaying the final vote even though I have proposed an amendment?

Because the final vote has already begun and I do not feel that your amendment would pass even were I stop the final vote and instead begin another vote on your amendment. It is frivolous and therefore not worth considering.

My amendment is not frivolous. Do you not understand the government would make money off my proposal. Is your opposition to my amendment based on the fact you want to nationalize the energy industry? How is my amendment frivolous?

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

If the President is correct I motion to hold a vote to delay a final vote to determine the merits of the proposed amendment.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

With six votes in the affirmative, three votes opposed, and one not voting, the Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act can be declared as having passed the Senate. It is now presented to the President for executive action.

Aye(s): President Pro Tempore TNF, Senator bore, Senator Cranberry, Senator Lumine, Senator Cynic, Senator Polnut
Nay(s): Senator Cassius, Senator Spiral, Senator North Carolina Yankee
Abstaining: None
Not voting: Senator JCL

You cannot disregard my motion to delay the final vote without considering my amendment. It has not passed as my motion to delay the final vote must be heard and voted upon.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

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X DemPGH, President

I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.

I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

The final vote had been called. That's it.

I motioned for a vote to delay. TNF refused without basis. So no this isn't over whatsoever.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

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X DemPGH, President

I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.

I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.

"I'll huff. . . and I'll puff. . . and I'll. . ."

JCL, the procedure is so clear that I cannot imagine what's preventing you from grasping it.

1. You cannot stop a final vote to propose an amendment.

2. The PPT does not have to stop a final vote. In 18 months I've not seen it.

3. When you decided to ask that it be stopped, it had already concluded anyway.

I motioned for delay while the vote was still going on not after.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.

Which is what I did. And as such dispute this bills passage.