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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 29, 2014, 01:33:48 PM »

I for one, am happy to have been among those who voted to keep applying pressure on Israel with economic sanctions, without which none of this would have ever been possible.

This treaty is illegitimate. Jerusalem must stay united in Jewish hands and only Jewish hands. I ask Duke not to divide Jerusalem.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2014, 11:22:30 AM »

I for one, am happy to have been among those who voted to keep applying pressure on Israel with economic sanctions, without which none of this would have ever been possible.

This treaty is illegitimate. Jerusalem must stay united in Jewish hands and only Jewish hands. I ask Duke not to divide Jerusalem.

The agreement was made, the cities are divided but strongly connected. I'm sorry if you have been disappointed...

Atlasia has no right to divide Jerusalem. The agreement is totally illegitimate. I urge our senate to say no to this abomination of a treaty. The land belongs to the Jews. Simple as that.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 08:36:58 PM »

The hard work has paid off! Let there be peace in this era of good feeling!

Go back to the table. Jerusalem must never be divided. It's the capital of Israel and is not to be divided under any circumstances. I want peace but the concessions forced on the Israelis is absolutely unacceptable. A one state solution with the borders post Yom Kippur as standing law.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2014, 03:18:02 PM »

This is a plan most hostile towards Israeli territorial integrity. Call everybody back to the table and don't leave till the territorial boundaries after the Yom Kippur War are given back to Israel. If not, I will.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 11:21:24 AM »

This is a plan most hostile towards Israeli territorial integrity. Call everybody back to the table and don't leave till the territorial boundaries after the Yom Kippur War are given back to Israel. If not, I will.

Really, you are a supporter of Greater Israel!? How cute! Maybe I'm confused but I believe that you want to see Israel become an Apartheid isolated and antidemocratic state in the future or at least you seem to forget that, by keeping the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Israel, in a near future, won't have a Jewish Majority! I'm not the one that is trying to make Israel collapse, that folk is you... Moreover, what do you mean by "I will", are you going to create a movement to go back to the negotiation table? How will you name it? "Greater Israel Super PAC", "In Apartheid we trust" or maybe "I don't want peace anyway"?

Israel got most of its settlements, Palestine is a state with no military, non-radical groups are governing Palestine now, Jerusalem will be more integrated and less divided than it is now, Israel will stop to be seen as an invader or a colonialist state by many nations, the Arab Countries will finally recognize the Jewish State and still you say that this plan is harmful for Israel. Do you know what is harmful to Israel and Sionism? It is to remain ruling over Judea and Samaria while the Muslim population keeps increasing, it is to keep working on a illegitimate control over lands that don't belong to them and it's to be kept isolating itself.

 I really don't see your point. You keep talking about Jerusalem and that seems your only are of concern. Mr. Abbas and Mr. Herzog made an outstanding deal, nothing was imposed, nothing was mandatory, they came out with this reasonable and sensible agreement. There's no way we will go back to the negotiation table just to see Israel with full control of Jerusalem.  We were so careful about the whole project that I can't even understand why you bother so much to post your periodical and empty criticism. I don't want to argue with you JCL, nonetheless, despite all your contributions to Atlasia,I see no reason why should I agree with your point of view. You also talk about "Territorial Integrity" but you seem to forget that we've allowed Israel to remain with some important settlements: Maaleh Adumin, Gush Etzion, Ariel and so many others.

Best Regards,

SoEA Superique.

I'm not advocating an apartheid state. This is a matter of property rights and the Atlasian government has no right to make Israel concede land won in a just war back to their Islamic neighbors. The Palestinians  need to agree to live by Israel's laws or go to an Islamic friendly nation.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 03:32:22 PM »

This is a plan most hostile towards Israeli territorial integrity. Call everybody back to the table and don't leave till the territorial boundaries after the Yom Kippur War are given back to Israel. If not, I will.

Really, you are a supporter of Greater Israel!? How cute! Maybe I'm confused but I believe that you want to see Israel become an Apartheid isolated and antidemocratic state in the future or at least you seem to forget that, by keeping the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Israel, in a near future, won't have a Jewish Majority! I'm not the one that is trying to make Israel collapse, that folk is you... Moreover, what do you mean by "I will", are you going to create a movement to go back to the negotiation table? How will you name it? "Greater Israel Super PAC", "In Apartheid we trust" or maybe "I don't want peace anyway"?

Israel got most of its settlements, Palestine is a state with no military, non-radical groups are governing Palestine now, Jerusalem will be more integrated and less divided than it is now, Israel will stop to be seen as an invader or a colonialist state by many nations, the Arab Countries will finally recognize the Jewish State and still you say that this plan is harmful for Israel. Do you know what is harmful to Israel and Sionism? It is to remain ruling over Judea and Samaria while the Muslim population keeps increasing, it is to keep working on a illegitimate control over lands that don't belong to them and it's to be kept isolating itself.

 I really don't see your point. You keep talking about Jerusalem and that seems your only are of concern. Mr. Abbas and Mr. Herzog made an outstanding deal, nothing was imposed, nothing was mandatory, they came out with this reasonable and sensible agreement. There's no way we will go back to the negotiation table just to see Israel with full control of Jerusalem.  We were so careful about the whole project that I can't even understand why you bother so much to post your periodical and empty criticism. I don't want to argue with you JCL, nonetheless, despite all your contributions to Atlasia,I see no reason why should I agree with your point of view. You also talk about "Territorial Integrity" but you seem to forget that we've allowed Israel to remain with some important settlements: Maaleh Adumin, Gush Etzion, Ariel and so many others.

Best Regards,

SoEA Superique.

I'm not advocating an apartheid state. This is a matter of property rights and the Atlasian government has no right to make Israel concede land won in a just war back to their Islamic neighbors. The Palestinians  need to agree to live by Israel's laws or go to an Islamic friendly nation.

Unfortunately, the laws of Israel and how they are applied almost guarantee an apartheid-like state. This needed to be addressed and hopefully, once the agreement starts to be implemented, the right balance between equality and decent living-standards for Palestinians and security and recognition for Israelis can be struck.

An agreement has been reached between Israel and the Palestinian Authorities, passed by the Knesset and overwhelmingly supported by the Palestinian people... you're in no place to call anyone back to the table to suit your politico-religious agenda.

I could accuse the Atlasian brokers of this deal of being in the back pocket of repressive Islamic regimes and sadly I'd be proven right. All because the pro-Israel and centrist leaning diplomats were purged out of Dukes state department. The only reason Israel went along was because the GM put a friendly government in instead of the rightly elected Netanyahu one. Even with the Atlasian changes Israel's government should've largely followed RL.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2014, 10:46:51 PM »

The reason I'm calling craziness here is I find it drastically implausible that Israel would be under a Labor government that would blindly give up defensible borders for a false peace. Even with the changes made to the American government that the game has ran under since 2004 or therebouts.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 04:09:34 PM »

I had GM backing and there was not a single day which anyone complained to me about anything. So now that everything is done, it's surely pretty easy. Nonetheless, I highly believe that Atlasian policies would have changed Israeli Political Landscape quite strongly and that RL backing for the Middle East will not always be efficient.

Then the GM was wrong and you are wrong for following him/her.


Oh and the defensible borders argument is terrible...

Your actions have put the nation of Israel in serious danger of being over ran by radicals who want to, by religious dictate, drive them into the sea. Every nation has a right to defensible borders and you have denied that to Israel. My argument is not to quote my geologist girlfriend "terribad" It's a just argument against this unjust treaty forced upon Israel. It is bad policy to favor those who are not a recognized nation and against a longtime ally. I strongly urge this government to recant its favor of the Arabs and Palestinians and return to loyal and steadfast friendship with Israel. This debate is not over.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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United States


« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2014, 10:19:03 PM »

Those settlements are legal. Neither the UN or our state department has the right to say otherwise.  Why shouldn't Israel be able to build on their own land? Atlasia is wrong for leading the isolation of Israel movement. Go after countries that refuse women's rights like the Arab ones Go after those who are anti-lgbt rights like the Arabs. Go after countries diplomatically that suppress religious freedom like the Arabs.  Quit attacking the only representative democracy in the region just to placate some piece of political correctness. I don't get you on the left who support tyrannical Islamic regimes who suppress women's and gay rights yet you go after the country in the Middle East that allows for more freedom for women and gays than Israel. It's the worst oxymoron that could be conceived of in the game or in rl. Why are we not hard balling the Saudis over women's rights when it's possible that the Saudi elite engage in trafficking of the kind I crusade against on our soil?
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