Balance of Power - The Great Russian War (1903-1904) (The End)

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

As hopeless as it is, we hope that Tokyo is willing to discuss a resolution to this conflict with us before it spirals further downward. Until we have a clear answer, we will continue preparations to defend the motherland from Japanese attack.

We also reiterate that further rash moves on the part of commissioned naval officers in the Pacific, especially those without any direct approval from above, will be dealt with harshly.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Our naval buildup was not a step towards war but an attempt to both bring Russia into the 20th century and to defend from the German and Japanese naval buildups which we saw (correctly, it seems) as a threat to our country. Our declaration of war came from Japanese spilling the blood of our countrymen. Our continued struggle against Japan comes from a need to protect ourselves from an ever-expanding empire.

We assure the Ottoman Empire that we have no aggressive intentions against them.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

OOC: I honestly say go through with turn two and then work on negotiation, but that's only if SJoyce and Cranberry are on board with that too.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

All Russian forces will cease fire immediately on condition that the Americans, British, Germans, Austrians, Japanese, and Turks do as well.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Russia will not pursue a status quo peace and is willing to make concessions provided that we have a voice in the peace talks.

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As is ours (as well as our brief cessation of aid to rebels) until the alliance is willing to negotiate.

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OOC: Russinia is not a real thing.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Russia officially ceases hostilities with the United Kingdom under the terms agreed upon via negotiation and sends forces in Afghanistan and Central Asia to resist the Austro-German-Turkish aggressors.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I order Russian forces to provisionally cease fire against forces from the United States and the Ottoman Empire.

OOC: I won't be online for most of today, just a heads-up.

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Tsar Nicholas II

OOC: Here's the world political map as of our peace treaties with Britain, Japan, the USA, and Turkey:

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Do Germany and Austria send in military orders as one country or as two?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

This has been a rather long hour.

(but seriously take as long as you need to)

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X Tsar Nicholas II

Russia and Austria have agreed in bilateral negotiations to cease hostilities in order to allow both of our countries to obtain internal stability.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I object to the results. As Austria never signed onto the treaty it never went into effect, and therefore there was no retreat from Austrian borders. The dice roll as it went is also questionable.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Alright, I was a bit unsure of the exact machinations of the number generator. The treaty mess was probably the bigger issue.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

When can we expect next phase?

The next phase would start with the Late 1904 turn, no?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Well, I just want to announce negociations with Russia have failed for 2 reasons:

-1st reason: Snowstalker was constantly faking having foreign support. He told me that Kalwejt found what I asked (Baltic states+ Poland as autonomous kindgom) was excessive: I PMed Kalwejt, he told me it wasn't true.
Snowstalker told me the same thing for Spamage, he told me the same thing that Kalwejt, it wasn't true.
And he told me the same thing for Cynic. And I already knew he supported my proposal.
And finally, he told me that Sawx was opposed to any Austrian and German annexation in the Balkan, I PMed Sawx, he told me it wasn't true and that he couldn't care less about Serbia.

I'm really infuriated by this behaviour. Snowstalker is speaking to me as if he was the winner of the war, faking foreign support. I have enough.


The 2nd reason: Snowstalker wants AH to get absolutely nothing. And as the current Austrian  chancellor, I can't accept that. AH is the most important ally of Germany, and I don't throw allies under the bus.


So the war continues. Maybe Snowstalker will be, next turn, more willing to concede.

We remind the Germans that they have, in the diplomatic sense, absolutely no reason to continue this war. This started as a conflict with Japan in Northeast Asia, which the Germans have abused in their attempt to take large swathes of Europe under Berlin's direct rule. We have been for months open to reasonable negotiations which the Germans despite this; however, German demands have always been radical and selfish in their unilateral attempt  to conquer Europe. We have already effectively conceded to Germany's direct territorial demands, but now they demand that the entire countries of Serbia, Montenegro, and Romania be annexed to Austria-Hungary. This brazen desire to openly destroy sovereign states is not only immoral but unfeasible; Austria is falling apart and to annex millions of people, all openly hostile to Vienna, would only ensure their empire's demise. We implore the international community to condemn Germany's attempts to take advantage of a conflict which has already been settled (as we are at peace with Japan) for their own personal gain at the cost of destroying entire countries. We would make peace with Germany immediately if their demands were remotely acceptable; alas, they are not.

As for the issue with Italy, I have already confided with them and they are indeed wary of any Austrian expansion in the Balkans, particularly Montenegro (origin of the Italian queen)

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Our allies only invaded Austria-Hungary when Austria declared war on their ally (that is, Russia). Serbia is, again, an independent and sovereign nation which would resist to any Austrian occupation; Austria is already unstable as its minorities are in revolt and as they are being beaten back by the little Romanian army.

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Our allies only invaded Austria-Hungary when Austria declared war on their ally (that is, Russia). Serbia is, again, an independent and sovereign nation which would resist to any Austrian occupation; Austria is already unstable as its minorities are in revolt and as they are being beaten back by the little Romanian army.

Dude,
Austrian's minorities aren't in revolt. But I wouldn't say the same thing for Russia .

And yes, maybe we declared war to Russia (and we declared that with good reason, like the other powers), but we have never invaded them. It's them.

A casual read of the war thread results and Lumine's summaries suggest that Austria is indeed unstable, much more so than Russia. The only crime Serbia, Romania, and Montenegro committed was coming to the aid of their ally when the Germans and Austrians declared war on us. Meanwhile, you took advantage of your position as a Japanese ally to continue the war even after our issues with Japan were settled in order to seize large swathes Europe for yourself.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Our allies only invaded Austria-Hungary when Austria declared war on their ally (that is, Russia). Serbia is, again, an independent and sovereign nation which would resist to any Austrian occupation; Austria is already unstable as its minorities are in revolt and as they are being beaten back by the little Romanian army.

Dude,
Austrian's minorities aren't in revolt. But I wouldn't say the same thing for Russia .

And yes, maybe we declared war to Russia (and we declared that with good reason, like the other powers), but we have never invaded them. It's them.

A casual read of the war thread results and Lumine's summaries suggest that Austria is indeed unstable, much more so than Russia. The only crime Serbia, Romania, and Montenegro committed was coming to the aid of their ally when the Germans and Austrians declared war on us. Meanwhile, you took advantage of your position as a Japanese ally to continue the war even after our issues with Japan were settled in order to seize large swathes Europe for yourself.

Due to Krupp factory bombing and poisining of the Kaiser, I dare to say Germany got a lot of reasons to go to war.

The Russian government had no involvement in either. If the Germans are so convinced that we are at fault, we propose investigators from a neutral country (Switzerland? Spain?) to determine the origin of both the Krupp bombings and whether or not Wilhelm III was poisoned (and if so, who the culprit could be)

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Orders? The next phase doesn't begin until Late 1904, whenever Lumine has that ready.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

It's not, but the next war phase won't occur for several more days until Lumine is ready.

And we never claimed that Russia has foreign support per se, merely opposition to the most extreme German demands like ceding land to a neutral country or wiping a sovereign kingdom off the map.

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We have messages proving our own point too, so either you're being lied to, I'm being lied to, or we both are.

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It's not, but the next war phase won't occur for several more days until Lumine is ready.

Maybe you'll let the GM to decide whenever he's ready instead of speaking for him.

Your attempts to gain time are quite funny.

That's not what I'm doing. I'm simply saying that Lumine has a lot of work ahead of him before he can start the next turn, and given the gaps between previous turns that is probably around a few days.

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We never considered Poland/Baltic as "excessive".

It's not, but the next war phase won't occur for several more days until Lumine is ready.

Maybe you'll let the GM to decide whenever he's ready instead of speaking for him.

Your attempts to gain time are quite funny.

That's not what I'm doing. I'm simply saying that Lumine has a lot of work ahead of him before he can start the next turn, and given the gaps between previous turns that is probably around a few days.

He'll start new turn when he's ready. There's no need to rush him nor delay him.

That mention of "excessive demands" referred to France and Italy more than you.