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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: October 11, 2016, 01:20:28 PM »

Merkel of the ones I know enough about to have an opinion. There might be some on-paper center-right or 'market liberal' leader in the developing world or something who's decent, though. Any halfway-decent strong monarch would probably be right-wing by definition, but I'm not aware of any of those currently. Abdullah II might come closest.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 02:41:59 PM »

Ugh, Merkel. Would've been May but the Home Department is embarking on some truly awful stuff.

What are they up to?
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 03:09:00 PM »

Ugh, Merkel. Would've been May but the Home Department is embarking on some truly awful stuff.

What are they up to?
this, along with the recent climbdown over forcing businesses to list their foreign workers.

What the Christ

Okay to start calling her 'Amber Crudd' now or is that too crass?
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 05:09:09 PM »

I could say Shinzo Abe for his actually good fiscal policies but he's so wretched otherwise.

Abenomics is macroeconomically...decent, but is doing bupkis to help the economy that most Japanese people actually experience and live in.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2016, 07:35:36 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2016, 07:37:19 PM by Ah! tout est bu, tout est mangé! Plus rien à dire! »

The Japanese right (and Abe in general) are fans of "public works" in a very top-down paternalistic sense. It's how their power structure works - they have the power, and will dole out capital if you work along with the status quo. It's  government that operates in a mutualistic relationship with the large businesses.

At first glance, this is macro-economically superior to the Eurozone's self-corseting gold standrad or the Republican Party's explicitly nihilistic agenda; but looking at the way Japan's economy actually works - the power structure of the companies, descended from the old Zaibatsu; the working hours verging on systematic abuse and of course the increased dependence on consumption taxes that makes the overly friendly relationships between the private sector and the government appear dangerously retrograde.

All though I will say Abe makes a killer MArio.

Agreed. It's probably the one G20 country where economic liberalism might actually be easier on the average Jōsuke than more 'internal improvements'. At least the freeters get some time to themselves, even if the culture isn't there for them to use it well.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2016, 10:25:42 PM »

The Japanese right (and Abe in general) are fans of "public works" in a very top-down paternalistic sense. It's how their power structure works - they have the power, and will dole out capital if you work along with the status quo. It's  government that operates in a mutualistic relationship with the large businesses.

At first glance, this is macro-economically superior to the Eurozone's self-corseting gold standrad or the Republican Party's explicitly nihilistic agenda; but looking at the way Japan's economy actually works - the power structure of the companies, descended from the old Zaibatsu; the working hours verging on systematic abuse and of course the increased dependence on consumption taxes that makes the overly friendly relationships between the private sector and the government appear dangerously retrograde.

All though I will say Abe makes a killer MArio.

Agreed. It's probably the one G20 country where economic liberalism might actually be easier on the average Jōsuke than more 'internal improvements'. At least the freeters get some time to themselves, even if the culture isn't there for them to use it well.

no wonder that YP is now part of the Democrats. I think the case could be argued that Korea is in a similar boat. Maybe PRC as well, considering how much the state just perversely invests in power plants that are immediately mothballed and cities which lie empty to fulfill quotas.

Of course, the remaining problem, in the Japanese context, is that due to the good old tateshakai economic liberalization perforce comes hand-in-hand with social atomization, which is never good but which mixes with Japanese culture in particular like baking soda and vinegar.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 01:08:59 PM »

Intell, I'd be very interested to know what respects you think Orban is good in. I'm willing to hear you out, but it's a worrying statement for someone with a maroon avatar to make.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 01:34:06 AM »

Of Course none of the conservatives leaders today are even close to being as good as Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush and Margaret Thatcher

This is an even sicker burn than you intend it to be!
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