Why doesn't Eurovision ever have "melodic indie post-punk scenecore" type music?

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Because Eurovision incorporates an element of popular voting, it's best for a country to have a song or put on a performance that will have broad appeal.

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Forecast is not in any way, shape, or form, better than Francesca Michielin.

^This too.

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Because Eurovision incorporates an element of popular voting, it's best for a country to have a song or put on a performance that will have broad appeal.

Oh so that's why it's nothing but sappy pop ballads.

Are you kidding? There's plenty of hardcore stuff at Eurovision, it's just not the kind of hardcore that would appeal to you specifically. Some countries appear to have the sensibility, which is occasionally borne out, that the people of Europe want loud, soaring quasi-gothica. Other countries give up and send washed-up nutjobs and deliberately trashy and cynical novelty acts, or acts that put one in mind of camp falsetto Dracula or a lesbian love triangle in a girls' fantasy anime from the 1990s. (And both of those are from the same Eurovision!) And then there's the Finnish fantasy metal band that won in 2006 (which you'd hate, obviously, but it's not sappy or poppy by any stretch of the imagination). Most people who watch Eurovision watch it at least partly for the spectacle of stuff like this.

Forecast is not in any way, shape, or form, better than Francesca Michielin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXE-aTIIG30

? This? What the f[inks] is this?

It's 'Nessun grado di separazione'! Now this very much is a sappy pop ballad and not really all that interesting (it's the worst Francesca Michielin song of the half-dozen or so I've heard), but it's technically well-done and Michielin's voice, appearance, and persona are all appealing.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Because Eurovision incorporates an element of popular voting, it's best for a country to have a song or put on a performance that will have broad appeal.

Oh so that's why it's nothing but sappy pop ballads.

Are you kidding? There's plenty of hardcore stuff at Eurovision, it's just not the kind of hardcore that would appeal to you specifically. Some countries appear to have the sensibility, which is occasionally borne out, that the people of Europe want loud, soaring quasi-gothica. Other countries give up and send washed-up nutjobs and deliberately trashy and cynical novelty acts, or acts that put one in mind of camp falsetto Dracula or a lesbian love triangle in a girls' fantasy anime from the 1990s. (And both of those are from the same Eurovision!) And then there's the Finnish fantasy metal band that won in 2006 (which you'd hate, obviously, but it's not sappy or poppy by any stretch of the imagination). Most people who watch Eurovision watch it at least partly for the spectacle of stuff like this.

None of that is anywhere near hardcore. A point I have to make quite frequently: hardcore is an actual genre*, it's not just a description of any "hard" music...and in fact for that matter not all hardcore is that "hard" either, the softer end of it includes stuff such as this.

Okay, well, keep in mind I'm not in the scene and am not hep to all the lingo so I was using 'hardcore' colloquially.

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Do you understand why that wouldn't work (or would require a lot of extra effort to make work) for something that most people watch on television? There's very little more frustrating than watching video footage of a live music event that doesn't focus on the stage.

Also, why the orange avatar? It's genuinely disorienting.

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I don't know about these other people, but I, personally, find BRTD's taste in music very dissonant.

'Dissonant' in what sense? Dissonant with the rest of his image?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Because Eurovision incorporates an element of popular voting, it's best for a country to have a song or put on a performance that will have broad appeal.

Oh so that's why it's nothing but sappy pop ballads.

Are you kidding? There's plenty of hardcore stuff at Eurovision, it's just not the kind of hardcore that would appeal to you specifically. Some countries appear to have the sensibility, which is occasionally borne out, that the people of Europe want loud, soaring quasi-gothica. Other countries give up and send washed-up nutjobs and deliberately trashy and cynical novelty acts, or acts that put one in mind of camp falsetto Dracula or a lesbian love triangle in a girls' fantasy anime from the 1990s. (And both of those are from the same Eurovision!) And then there's the Finnish fantasy metal band that won in 2006 (which you'd hate, obviously, but it's not sappy or poppy by any stretch of the imagination). Most people who watch Eurovision watch it at least partly for the spectacle of stuff like this.

None of that is anywhere near hardcore. A point I have to make quite frequently: hardcore is an actual genre*, it's not just a description of any "hard" music...and in fact for that matter not all hardcore is that "hard" either, the softer end of it includes stuff such as this.

Okay, well, keep in mind I'm not in the scene and am not hep to all the lingo so I was using 'hardcore' colloquially.

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Do you understand why that wouldn't work (or would require a lot of extra effort to make work) for something that most people watch on television? There's very little more frustrating than watching video footage of a live music event that doesn't focus on the stage.

Also, why the orange avatar? It's genuinely disorienting.

Perhaps he's declaring his allegiance to the Unionists?

Because it's St. Patrick's Day.

Speaking as somebody with Irish roots that I'm not particularly connected to and who cordially dislikes St. Patrick's Day, that is petty as all hell.

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Also the orange avatar started some years ago because everyone was turning their avatars green on St. Patrick's Day, which I found stupid. (I'm actually genuinely surprised we didn't see an outpouring of R-CAs after Nancy Reagan died, which also would've been stupid.)

Weirdly enough a couple years ago St. Patrick's Day fell on a Sunday, and I saw a lot of people wearing green at church.

Yeah, that's a little tacky, and is exactly the sort of 'e'erybody is Oirish on St. Paddy's Day!!' bullsh**t that makes me dislike the holiday.