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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: July 09, 2015, 07:30:11 PM »

This guy reads the riot act to Tsipras, starring him in the eye. Tsipras seemed rather entertained by it all. We need a Constitutional amendment right now to make Verhofstadt eligible to be POTUS. We need him far more than Belgium does.

Stark!

America isn't going to elect a president who looks like Harry Potter.

Well, Harry must be eligible on age, by now Smiley

Harry Potter was born on July 31, 1980. So in a few weeks, yes.

The amount is significantly higher than the package of cuts that Greek voters rejected in in the referendum.

Oh for Christ's sake.
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 08:46:39 PM »

This is just sad.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2015, 04:55:47 AM »

It really has become hard to contend any longer that these institutions are acting in anything more than vaguely approximating good faith, hasn't it?
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2015, 09:21:20 PM »

Tusk expects to reconvene Eurosummit in a few minutes with a compromise proposal.

I'm assuming this will be one of those 'compromises' that is more hardline than what the creditors were originally asking for?
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2015, 10:20:01 PM »

Tusk expects to reconvene Eurosummit in a few minutes with a compromise proposal.

I'm assuming this will be one of those 'compromises' that is more hardline than what the creditors were originally asking for?

Even the Greek proposal is more hardline than what the creditors were originally asking for.

Yes, I know, which is why this whole charade is so pathetic, depressing, and disgusting.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 05:53:26 PM »

...and I looked into the future, and saw only bloodless technocracy and 'competitiveness'. Utterly, utterly disheartening.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2015, 06:06:07 PM »

...and I looked into the future, and saw only bloodless technocracy and 'competitiveness'. Utterly, utterly disheartening.

You would prefer non-competitiveness?

I would prefer the concept of 'competitiveness' not be treated as a be-all end-all or a panacea.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2015, 07:11:26 PM »

...and I looked into the future, and saw only bloodless technocracy and 'competitiveness'. Utterly, utterly disheartening.

You would prefer non-competitiveness?

I would prefer the concept of 'competitiveness' not be treated as a be-all end-all or a panacea.

Well, I am certain even Angela Merkel fully agrees with you on that point Smiley The end is improving the satisfaction of the electorate. Competitiveness is only (one of many) necessary conditions for it Smiley

I have absolutely no faith that improving the satisfaction of the Greek electorate would improve the satisfaction of Merkel's base at this point.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2015, 10:20:18 PM »

...and I looked into the future, and saw only bloodless technocracy and 'competitiveness'. Utterly, utterly disheartening.

You would prefer non-competitiveness?

I would prefer the concept of 'competitiveness' not be treated as a be-all end-all or a panacea.

Well, I am certain even Angela Merkel fully agrees with you on that point Smiley The end is improving the satisfaction of the electorate. Competitiveness is only (one of many) necessary conditions for it Smiley

I have absolutely no faith that improving the satisfaction of the Greek electorate would improve the satisfaction of Merkel's base at this point.

Merkel, obviously, only cares about the German electorate - as she should. For the Greeks there is Tsipras.

Who's completely unable to deliver on anything he was elected to do (which isn't his fault, but even so). Even if you approve of the content of what Tsipras has just agreed to, it's hard to argue that he shouldn't do the honorable thing and resign once it's passed.
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