Do you support any form of eugenics?

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At this point in the world's history I guess I tepidly support prophylactics-based population control in general principle, but the second it targets any specific group, especially one that's already disadvantaged, it takes a flying leap over the line from acceptable through morally suspect into outright evil.

Out of curiosity, do my views have analogues anywhere?

I see that Antonio's already fielded this question about your views in general, so I'll answer it about this subject specifically. You'll find a kindred spirit (although Lucy Maud Montgomery is surely turning in her grave for my use of that phrase in this context!) on this very forum. Seek out a poster called Cory if you're interested. He doesn't hate poor people as much as you do, but he hates disabled people more, so it balances out.

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I don't "hate the poor" (I cede self-loathing to Christians). I love the poor and wish to create an escape hatch from the poverty trap that our unofficial natalist regime - marriage tax credits, preferential welfare payments to parents, etc. - have foist upon them.

I understand why you present it that way and the logic that goes into thinking like that but I think that specifically targeting a group of people for what amounts to a cull, even a relatively kind and gentle cull, amounts for all practical purposes to hating them, even if hatred isn't originally the emotion from which the motivation to do so stems.

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I don't "hate the poor" (I cede self-loathing to Christians).

The hell does that even mean?

Einzige has very particular views about Christians, and reacts extremely poorly to being reminded that there's more than one kind of us.

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I don't "hate the poor" (I cede self-loathing to Christians).

The hell does that even mean?

Einzige has very particular views about Christians, and reacts extremely poorly to being reminded that there's more than one kind of us.

Oh, I know how he feels about Christians.  I just don't know where the "self-loathing" bit comes from, especially when it comes to the poor.

Einzige's from (or claims to be from) the same general socioeconomic background as the people he wants to submit to negative eugenics programs (and has used this as a threadbare defense of incredibly elitist and downright hateful posts in the very recent past, even). I guess his big monolithic mental image of 'The Christian' has stereotypically Catholic self-flagellating tendencies. That's the way I interpreted it, anyway.

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No I don't. Stop lying about my record.

Seriously? Your 'record'? Get real, Cory.

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No I don't. Stop lying about my record.

Seriously? Your 'record'? Get real, Cory.

It's a Bob Dole quote, I think.

That's hilarious.

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No I don't. Stop lying about my record.

Seriously? Your 'record'? Get real, Cory.

Well, that's exactly what you're doing.

I'm actually not but even if it was acting as supercilious as you are is hardly the right way to get me to feel bad about it.

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No I don't. Stop lying about my record.

Seriously? Your 'record'? Get real, Cory.

Well, that's exactly what you're doing.

I'm actually not but even if it was acting as supercilious as you are is hardly the right way to get me to feel bad about it.

Point out where I said I "hate disabled people" then jackass. I don't care about getting you to "feel bad" I'm just pointing out that you're full of sh**t.

In addition to what Scott posted--and yeah, waiting until now to cover your sorry ass is pretty abject, if you're even telling the truth about being drunk (which isn't an excuse anyway)--read what I said about Einzige's 'love' for the poor. If your 'love' for somebody results in their massacre, preemptive or otherwise, then it's functionally hate, regardless of what emotional state may motivate it.

I don't care about getting you to feel bad either since you're a hard-hearted reprobate, I'm just publicly shaming you for other people's edification. I'm glad we're on the same page as far as that goes.

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In addition to what Scott posted--and yeah, waiting until now to cover your sorry ass is pretty abject, if you're even telling the truth about being drunk (which isn't an excuse anyway)--read what I said about Einzige's 'love' for the poor. If your 'love' for somebody results in their massacre, preemptive or otherwise, then it's functionally hate, regardless of what emotional state may motivate it.

I don't care about getting you to feel bad either since you're a hard-hearted reprobate, I'm just publicly shaming you for other people's edification. I'm glad we're on the same page as far as that goes.

Really? You think that enabling parents to have children without downs syndrome is "preemptive massacre"?

You must be as stupid as you are terribly, hideously ugly (I saw your pic in the thread, it explains a lot). That's probably why you are so against genetic engineering. You're just bitter that within 100 years people largely might not have to live with your condition.

Cory, be a dear and give me a second and I'll respond, okay? Sorry if it's past your bedtime; I'm doing this as fast as I can. Just get your blankie and go nap-nap and I'll get back to you soon.

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So, does anybody else in this thread watch Orphan Black? Mind if I spoil the latest episode in the interests of insulting this POS? Although I suppose even asking this question makes it pretty clear what the insult is going to be, doesn't it?

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I accept your apology, Cory, and I wish you the best. I'd be lying if I said I didn't hope that the self-reflection I hope and assume you will engage in might lead you to a different understanding of certain issues in politics and scientific ethics and the effect that they have on people's relationships and lives, but that's really neither here nor there, at this point. Good-bye.

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I mean, Einzige's the obvious answer since he's the OP, but I'd be surprised if Snowstalker didn't swing through an at least crypto-eugenicist phase at some point or other.