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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: May 16, 2014, 05:32:04 AM »
« edited: May 16, 2014, 09:12:49 AM by asexual trans victimologist »

Woodrow Wilson wasn't actually a Klansman.

To express it another way: I am not a Rightist, but, if I were, the European far-right, for all its racialism, is much more attractive to me than what passes for even the centre-right in the States. The former tends to have a very high level of discourse; it isn't uncommon for discussions to play out almost like genealogies. It's also modernist in its approach, sometimes moreso than the Left. Note that this applies mainly to actual neo-fascists, and less so to Americanized anti-Islamic populists and the like.

What is the American Right in comparison? They are almost uniformly Christian Fundamentalists - an abomination in itself - and either willfully ignorant rubes or mawkish sentimentalists, every bit as stereotypically emotion-driven as a 'bleeding heart liberal', and both deeply unmodern.

It may be a stylistic preference, but politics is as much aesthetics as anything else.  And my politics are purely Art Deco.

This is one of the best apologias for the American right I've ever read.

'[L]evel of discourse'. For Christ's sake. What pretentious drivel. This sort of thing is an insult to the people to whose lives and livelihoods politics is actually important. Any decent politics is vernacular. It can be other styles too if it really wants to--part of the beauty of vernacular architecture is how varied it is!--but it has to at least be that.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2014, 02:55:33 AM »

Woodrow Wilson wasn't actually a Klansman.

To express it another way: I am not a Rightist, but, if I were, the European far-right, for all its racialism, is much more attractive to me than what passes for even the centre-right in the States. The former tends to have a very high level of discourse; it isn't uncommon for discussions to play out almost like genealogies. It's also modernist in its approach, sometimes moreso than the Left. Note that this applies mainly to actual neo-fascists, and less so to Americanized anti-Islamic populists and the like.

What is the American Right in comparison? They are almost uniformly Christian Fundamentalists - an abomination in itself - and either willfully ignorant rubes or mawkish sentimentalists, every bit as stereotypically emotion-driven as a 'bleeding heart liberal', and both deeply unmodern.

It may be a stylistic preference, but politics is as much aesthetics as anything else.  And my politics are purely Art Deco.

I think that you somewhat overestimate the capacity of the European far-right's intellectual equipment. I mean, you referred to the 'actual neo-fascists' as conducting their discourse upon a higher level. Well, when it comes to genuine neo-fascists and Nazis (as opposed to the hard-right 'populists' that you'll find in the PVV and FN, though of course, there are undoubtedly a few of the former in those parties as well), probably the most well-known example in modern Europe is the Greek party Golden Dawn. Their standard of discourse basically amounts to beating up their opponents.

I assume he's thinking primarily of people like Alain de Benoist and I guess maybe Julius Evola. These people are hardly preferable to anybody on the basis of their image or style or whatever in the first place since that basically amounts to being really pretentious at best and indulging grandiose delusions at worst, and the idea that they make up a significant proportion of the European far-right as it actually exists seems ludicrous based on what I know.
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