Thousands of Thai call for ouster of PM Yingluck Shinawatra

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Folks who are 'anti-sex' by your metric are often pro-other things that people at advanced stages of moral development tend to value significantly more than convenient access to orgasms (or money, for that matter), so, you know, that's where the appeal of democracy and populism come in. But you knew that already.

I'm also pretty sure that the easiest way to have what you define as fun involves your hands, unless you don't have any in which case you have much more serious difficulties to contend with anyway.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Folks who are 'anti-sex' by your metric are often pro-other things that people at advanced stages of moral development tend to value significantly more than convenient access to orgasms (or money, for that matter), so, you know, that's where the appeal of democracy and populism come in. But you knew that already.

That is not 'advanced', Nathan.  Its just arbitrary socialization... ridiculous to value it as 'better' or 'worse' than any other arrangement.

See, you're saying that because you're stuck in a type of moral calculus that's most common among small children.

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It is absurd to equate that with sexual intercourse.
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It's also absurd--although maybe on a different level, I don't know--to equate soliciting a prostitute with normal sex, so you started it.

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As far as the main subject of the thread goes, neither main side of the Thai political divide seems that great, in all honesty. I once knew a foreign exchange student who was an ardent Democrat Party and royal family supporter and she was able to explain her position pretty well in a way that didn't sound totally unreasonable. She certainly made it sound better than opebo does.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Folks who are 'anti-sex' by your metric are often pro-other things that people at advanced stages of moral development tend to value significantly more than convenient access to orgasms (or money, for that matter), so, you know, that's where the appeal of democracy and populism come in. But you knew that already.

That is not 'advanced', Nathan.  Its just arbitrary socialization... ridiculous to value it as 'better' or 'worse' than any other arrangement.

See, you're saying that because you're stuck in a type of moral calculus that's most common among small children.

You precisely make my point - socialization.  Its just nonsense you're swallowing during the indoctrination from childhood to adult-cog-in-the-machine-hood, Nathan.

What's funny about this accusation is that your way of thinking is probably closer to the mythical 'average person's' than mine is in a lot of ways. Most of the 'indoctrination' that I experience in my daily life would if I succumbed to it make my way of thinking more similar to yours, not less.

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It is absurd to equate that with sexual intercourse.
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It's also absurd--although maybe on a different level, I don't know--to equate soliciting a prostitute with normal sex, so you started it.[/quote]

No, it is precisely the same act, Nathan.[/quote]

Acts have intents and motives and contexts.

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Of course I don't, but I do consider women different from food.

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I'm quite sure my analysis is more honest, however.
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From your perspective of course it is. From her perspective of course hers was. (She was from Nonthaburi Province, by the way, if that means anything to you.)

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I feel that it would do us all some measure of good to bear in mind that "morality" and "pleasure-seeking" are equally unsophisticated means of interpreting the world, and one really should not feel superior for preferring one or the other: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-circuit_model_of_consciousness

Interesting. I've bookmarked the article for further reading. Thank you.