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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: June 21, 2012, 06:24:02 AM »

I don't think the average conservative believes in or obeys the Golden Rule or loves his neighbor as himself. Giving tax cuts to the rich and turning the poor and immigrants away isn't very Christian in my book.

"Your book" is the liberal playbook, and you're bringing religion into the debate to try to undercut our message.

The answer is, everything is subjective. While you may not believe that conservative tax policies are very Christian, many of us do.

We don't give tax breaks to the rich because we love rich people more than our neighbors. We give tax cuts to the rich because we believe it's a good way to lift up our neighbours along with the whole of society. And in that sense, you might see we are actively fighting for our neighbours. I think it's absurd to suggest that conservatives, in particular, aren't neghbourly or charitable.

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." -- Matthew 19:24

I don't think taking away the safety net to pay for tax cuts for the rich is in line with what Jesus actually taught.
I think you have taken one of the most important lines in the Bible and twisted it very far from its context. It means that you should not let your wealth make you feel like God is not important. Sadly, people do not realize that. It has nothing to do with taxes, the safety net, or poverty.

Jesus said that we should help each other. If the government gave social aid, nobody would be helping each other-the government would. In a world where every single need was taken care of by the government, private charity and sacrifice-the altruism that Ayn Rand hated-would not exist.


Is the government not a body of people? If people are being helped, then it doesn't really matter. If you're trying to encourage people to be nice and charitable, that's great, but that's not an excuse for removing the government.
But government forces people to help one another through Progressive taxation does it not? I can't claim to speak for Jesus-in fact, if I could, I would argue that Jesus was a Libertarian Socialist when it came to economics-voluntary spreading of wealth. Of course, Jesus being born without original sin makes it alot easier for him to hold these views Wink

Taxation is arguably something other than entirely coercive in a system in which one has the opportunity to vote against those proposing or instituting the taxes.

Agreed that voluntary redistribution of wealth is the Christian ideal; it's a question of how to deal with the fact that most people's lives and worldviews don't work that way without intermediary factors or so-called social contracts.
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