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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: May 21, 2012, 03:49:34 PM »

Question 1:  Do you deny the goal, whether by legislation or by court ruling, is homosexual marriage equality?

Of course it is. Quite right, too.

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The ones in the churches will. Otherwise I don't imagine they'd care very much, once the churches stopped leveraging political power on this issue.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 01:38:19 AM »

No. The Church Visible is not an oppressed group. There's a sense of course in which the Church is always oppressed but that is not the Church to whose star you've hitched your wagon. That Church is, in this country, at this time, defined by being complicit with Pharaonic power. If you don't understand what this means, accept it for what it is yet not stop contending against it, and understand that no matter how big a self-fetishizing martyr complex you've got yourself into you are still speaking from a position of sociopolitical strength, which has always been and will always be the wrong way for the Church of God to speak in this world, you are not fit to be a Christian.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 03:57:00 PM »

I like how you concede the 'political power of the Christian community' when it doesn't benefit you to play the victim.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 01:55:31 AM »

I did read and I stick with what I said. Remember when it's a direct vote of the people gay marriage always loses. When it's in the hands of judges and legislatures it gets a bit shifty.
If the people had a direct say on this one, traditional marriage and gay marriage bans will win.

32-0 Indiana in 2014.



No. Anywhere from 31-4 to 35-0 Indiana in 2014.
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