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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: September 20, 2011, 01:29:25 PM »

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's cry of Armageddon from the religious right. I can't wait for the inevitable Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage nationwide. These guys are gonna explode in rage Cheesy

That one isn't coming. DADT will come back as soon as Obama is removed and the Tea Party wins control of the senate.



And how is a bong relevant to this discussion? If you think I need to smoke weed you would be sadly mistaken. It's you who needs the wine of Jesus to take you over.

The implication is that your conceit that ever again at any point in time this country will see fit to force people into completely soul-destroying situations on account of their orientation on top of everything else a soldier has to go through indicates thought patterns similar to those of habitual drug users.

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 09:13:17 PM »
« Edited: September 20, 2011, 09:17:26 PM by Nathan »

The homosexuality is the soul destroying situation.

My best friend's soul is obviously intact to anybody who knows her, and she's just slightly more lesbian than a hypothetical episode of Rizzoli & Isles scripted by Ikuhara Kunihiko.

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Integration is going fine. The military serves the civilian public, not the other way around, and knows it (even if the civilian public doesn't always). And in the civilian public support for gays serving hovers between sixty and eighty per cent, depending on the phrasing of the question. Are all of these people 'baseless bureaucrats' in your opinion?

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You're going to have to try harder, since I only consider 'authoritarian' inherently pejorative when it's applied to civil and political rights, which the 'right' to ban other people from certain jobs because of who they love isn't. Speaking of authoritarianism, though, here is an exhaustive list of countries that currently maintain explicit bans of any kind on military service on the basis of dangly bits or clefts between the legs and attraction thereto:

Somalia
Uganda
Western Sahara
Somaliland
Belize
Honduras
Panama
Antigua and Barbuda
Barbados
Cuba
Dominica
Dominican Republic
Grenada
Haiti
Jamaica
St Christopher and Nevis
St Lucia
St Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
Venezuela
Egypt
South Sudan
Sudan
Bahrain
Iraq
Kuwait
Lebanon
Oman
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Syria
United Arab Emirates
Yemen
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Iran
India (under legal dispute)
Maldives
Pakistan
North Korea
South Korea
Brunei
Burma
Malaysia
Belarus
Turkey
Northern Cyprus
Papua New Guinea
Solomon Islands
Kiribati
Palau
Tonga

Our partners in freedom, all!

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Entirely leaving aside the fact that I'm probably less pro-abortion than most other leftists, what do these issues have to do with each other?
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 10:44:29 PM »

What I'm saying is it's not right that those who chose a lifestyle condemned by the major religions of the world and medical science be able to serve in the military yet the baby in the womb is not able to have his/her right to life protected.  

It's not condemned by all major religions of the world, and medical science doesn't consider it a 'lifestyle'. It also is a completely separate issue from abortion.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 12:37:25 AM »

The three major religions would beg to differ.

You're not specifying which three major religions so I'm forced to conclude that you're referring to Christianity, Islam, and Chinese folk religion, which are the three largest in the world. As it happens, there isn't any kind of consensus at all in the former, the second I'll for the most part concede (though it's still not an absolute consensus), and the latter doesn't look with particular favour on any kind of sexuality but also doesn't particularly discriminate (though, again, not a total consensus).

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Fun fact: The vast majority of HIV/AIDS cases in the world are contracted through straight sex.

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Good. So do I.

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...so allowing people to do a job that they want to do and are good at regardless of who they are in relationships with or would like to be in relationships with is more tyrannical than, uh, not allowing that? Gotcha.
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