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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2012, 04:34:23 PM »
« edited: October 28, 2012, 04:43:03 PM by Nathan »

This is just unutterably upsetting and disheartening.

Even if retaining restrictions on the marriage franchise that cause more and more legal problems and social friction as their existence continues by narrow margins in popular referenda would somehow help resolve the real crisis of late secular modernity that this country and many others are in (which it won't), the fact that it takes all sorts of misleading or flat-out inaccurate trash advertising every single time to sway this completely negates any sort of moral or religious high ground these opponents could conceivably have otherwise had.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2012, 05:08:17 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2012, 05:12:58 PM by Nathan »

Come to think of it, has gay marriage ever survived a popular vote in the US? I can't think of one offhand, which is kind of disheartening.

No. Only one anti-gay ballot measure of any kind, a particularly draconian one in Arizona before that state slammed the dial as far right as it could go without breaking, has ever even failed.

Again, it will still probably get carried in Maine and Washington is more likely than not to be a squeaker, in which I think we still have a slight but diminished edge. Either or both of those would be hugely important symbolic as well as practical victories considering the total lack of any previous victories of this kind. Minnesota might be saved by the fact that abstentions count as No votes on ballot questions there. I'm very depressed about Maryland, though.
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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2012, 03:40:31 PM »

These fresh polls quite clearly show that Barack Obama has attacked his own religion as well as the people's values.

They actually show that he's 'attacked' about 45-50% of the people's values, but if you say so. Also, Obama's a nondenominational Christian who used to be Congregationalist. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the UCC, but...
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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2012, 10:51:52 AM »


Not enough to pass under Minnesota law.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2014, 07:51:09 PM »

Is SSM on the ballot in any state this fall?

Indiana was a possibility for a constitutional-ban referendum but I don't think anything came of that.
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