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Horus
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« on: March 02, 2015, 11:05:37 PM »

Yes (R ), and I would aggressively lobby my colleagues to do the same using whatever influence I might have.

Hopefully you wouldn't be a member of Congress, since you repeatedly demonstrate in your postings on here that you are a foreigner who places your allegiance to Israel above your allegiance to America.

Please stop. This idea that Jews are foreigners who care more about Israel than their own nation is very common anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Anyway, No (D)

I think it's rather antisemitic to assume there aren't any American Jews who feel just that way. There are many American Jews who value Israel above America certainly not the majority, but many. And there are also millions upon millions of Evangelical Christians who value Israel more than they value America America. Pointing this out and criticizing it is not antisemitic, it's pro-American.
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Horus
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 11:29:24 PM »

Yes (R ), and I would aggressively lobby my colleagues to do the same using whatever influence I might have.

Hopefully you wouldn't be a member of Congress, since you repeatedly demonstrate in your postings on here that you are a foreigner who places your allegiance to Israel above your allegiance to America.

Please stop. This idea that Jews are foreigners who care more about Israel than their own nation is very common anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Anyway, No (D)

I think it's rather antisemitic to assume there aren't any American Jews who feel just that way. There are many American Jews who value Israel above America certainly not the majority, but many. And there are also millions upon millions of Evangelical Christians who value Israel more than they value America America. Pointing this out and criticizing it is not antisemitic, it's pro-American.

How in the hell could that be anti-semitic?

It doesn't matter whether American Jews support Israel or not. Calling an American Jew a "Foreigner" is not only anti-semitic, it is one of the oldest tropes in the anti-semitic playbook. Accuse the Jew of disloyalty as precedent for stripping them of their citizenship for real.

The mask slips more and more each day.

So you believe every single American Jew puts America before Israel?
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Horus
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 11:41:55 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2015, 11:45:34 PM by Horus »

Yes (R ), and I would aggressively lobby my colleagues to do the same using whatever influence I might have.

Hopefully you wouldn't be a member of Congress, since you repeatedly demonstrate in your postings on here that you are a foreigner who places your allegiance to Israel above your allegiance to America.

Please stop. This idea that Jews are foreigners who care more about Israel than their own nation is very common anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Anyway, No (D)

I think it's rather antisemitic to assume there aren't any American Jews who feel just that way. There are many American Jews who value Israel above America certainly not the majority, but many. And there are also millions upon millions of Evangelical Christians who value Israel more than they value America America. Pointing this out and criticizing it is not antisemitic, it's pro-American.

How in the hell could that be anti-semitic?

It doesn't matter whether American Jews support Israel or not. Calling an American Jew a "Foreigner" is not only anti-semitic, it is one of the oldest tropes in the anti-semitic playbook. Accuse the Jew of disloyalty as precedent for stripping them of their citizenship for real.

The mask slips more and more each day.

So you believe every single American Jew puts America before Israel?

This is really weird and I have no idea how you could possibly be misconstruing the conversation this much.

1. America and Israel's interests do not differ in this situation. The President - a lame duck who was repudiated by the voters in the last midterm election - has different interests from Israel. This is the equivalent of claiming that anyone opposed to the Iraq war in 2007 was un-American.

2. Claiming that American Jews - whether they value Israel's security highly or not - are foreigners is ALWAYS anti-semitic.

There are a American Jews with dual citizenship who serve in the IDF. They value Israel more than America, they've made it clear, they'll sometimes even freely admit it, and calling a spade a spade is not antisemitic. That word used to mean something. Now anytime certain Zionists are even slightly offended they scream that term and expect the world to flock to their aid and give them sympathy.

You also still didn't answer the question.
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