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jimrtex
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« on: June 06, 2015, 08:51:27 PM »

Co2 emissions have exploded since 2000.  Global warming, by 7 sets of data, stopped.  By one new set, has continued at the rate of 1950-2012...but still far slower than 1975-1998.
Are there some charts of the increase of CO2 emissions over say the last century or so?  What about atmospheric CO2 concentrations?

If there is causality between CO2 emissions and atmospheric CO2 concentrations and temperature increases, shouldn't there be correlation.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 12:02:13 AM »

Co2 emissions have exploded since 2000.  Global warming, by 7 sets of data, stopped.  By one new set, has continued at the rate of 1950-2012...but still far slower than 1975-1998.
Are there some charts of the increase of CO2 emissions over say the last century or so?  What about atmospheric CO2 concentrations?

If there is causality between CO2 emissions and atmospheric CO2 concentrations and temperature increases, shouldn't there be correlation.



There has been an absolutely enormous growth in carbon emissions globally from human activity since 2002.
What was the cause of the jump post 2002?  Implementation of the Kyoto Protocol?

I was looking at the Wikipedia page on the Kyoto Protocol, and it had a chart showing the relationship between pledged changes in CO2 emissions and actual changes, and they were all over the place.  A curiosity was the Baltics, which have had massive drops (50%), presumably due to decommissioning of coal-fired plants.  Meanwhile building of a nuclear power plant in Lithuania and Kalingrad have stalled, and Lithuania's former nuclear power plant was decommissioned in 2009 as part of their EU accession.

So did they switch from using coal imported from Russia, to using electricity imported from Russia or what?


This is the absolute rate of growth in carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere. 

While co2 emissions ballooned 2003-2012...the rate of change in atmospheric co2 concentrations did not increase.  The relationship has a disconnect.

This would argue increased uptake of co2 by the biosphere or by the oceans. 

In order for the oceans to do this, they would need to cool significantly...since cooler surface waters increase co2 uptake.

But the geniuses at NOAA are arguing that the ocean warming is what was under estimated in the past 15 years and where they adjusted so they could say the pause never happened.  They want their cake and they wanna eat it too.

I wouldn't expect a dogmatist like evergreen to figure this out.  Simple google searches and a working knowledge of climate just isn't feasible...so snarky post edits are all he/she has.
What is the global CO2 concentration?  (ie your charts show the first derivative).
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 04:24:20 AM »

Interestingly...warming in California is positively correlated to county population size!

Humans emit CO2.
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