Pasadena Police slay unarmed black teenager

[jimrtex]

A man was robbed and called 911 to report it, saying the thiefs had put a gun in his face.

The police then killed an unarmed black kid.

They say he ''reached for his waistband'', so 2 police fired 8 shots, killing him on a street corner.

He had no weapon.

And so the police blamed the killing on their state of mind, being told that these robbers were armed. So they arrested the guy who called 911, since apparently there was no gun to begin with.

And the dead kid? Well, I haven't found anything even implying he was guilty of the robbery to begin wtih.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_20281352/911-caller-arrested-after-pasadena-police-kill-teen

I was once patted down by cops because I had my hand on my waistband as I was walking down the street. Luckily I'm white so they didn't kill me.

"[Pasadena Police Chief] Sanchez said a videotape shot near the taco truck shows the 17-year-old (see below) reaching into Carrillo's car and allegedly grabbing both a backpack and a laptop computer. Sanchez said [dead man] McDade acted as a "lookout" during the alleged burglary."

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"The 17-year-old robbery suspect was later arrested and was charged Tuesday with two felony counts of commercial burglary, one felony count of grand theft property and one misdemeanor count of failing to register as a gang member, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. "

[jimrtex]

Jimrtex, can you think of any instance in which the police have ever been wrong in killing someone? Cuz you stick up for them an awful lot.

I should have been more careful in my presentation, for those who have less reading comprehension.

Jacobtm wrote:

And the dead kid? Well, I haven't found anything even implying he was guilty of the robbery to begin wtih.

I read the article that he linked to, and I listened to the recording of the 911 call.

And I then quoted the portion of the article that he had linked to that at least implies that the dead teenager (19 year old) was guilty of the robbery.

"[Pasadena Police Chief] Sanchez said a videotape shot near the taco truck shows the 17-year-old (see below) reaching into Carrillo's car and allegedly grabbing both a backpack and a laptop computer. Sanchez said [dead man] McDade acted as a "lookout" during the alleged burglary."

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"The 17-year-old robbery suspect was later arrested and was charged Tuesday with two felony counts of commercial burglary, one felony count of grand theft property and one misdemeanor count of failing to register as a gang member, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. "

[jimrtex]

"[Pasadena Police Chief] Sanchez said a videotape shot near the taco truck shows the 17-year-old (see below) reaching into Carrillo's car and allegedly grabbing both a backpack and a laptop computer. Sanchez said [dead man] McDade acted as a "lookout" during the alleged burglary."

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"The 17-year-old robbery suspect was later arrested and was charged Tuesday with two felony counts of commercial burglary, one felony count of grand theft property and one misdemeanor count of failing to register as a gang member, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. "

And still they slayed an unarmed man on the street.

And this happened because they believed he had a gun, because of a lie told to the police.

Do you see the reason that people should be allowed a trial before being shot dead in the street?

You wrote: Well, I haven't found anything even implying he was guilty of the robbery to begin wtih.

Why did you write that?

My interpretation was that you had looked, but had failed to find any information.  I presumed that you would be interested in knowing what you had failed to find.

I don't see the connection between your inability to discover what was in the article you linked to, and that a person was shot.

Yes.  It would appear that Carrillo is being charged with involuntary manslaughter because of his gross negligence (eg assuming the police wouldn't respond to a snatch of a backpack from an unlocked car).  There may be more to the case.

Is you last question rhetorical?

[jimrtex]

So one of the officers shot at him, missed, and the other officer pursued and then shot him dead? If that is the case, why aren't the officers charged with anything? And the guy who might have made a mistake when reporting the crime gets booked with a misdemeanor? What a bunch of crap.

If the videotape shows the burglary, and Carrillo just sees the two running off with his backpack, or perhaps going over to his car as they run off and discovers that they had taken his backpack, and then pulls out his cell phone and calls the police, it is more than a mistake.

If you follow the original link, it has a recording of the 911 call, in which Carrillo starts the call by stating that there was a gun involved.  If the videotape shows that he wasn't near to them, then he was adding the gun part in order to get the police to respond quicker.  I don't think that he can argue that he was confused, especially after he changes in the middle of the call to say that they both had guns.

[jimrtex]

Yeah I dunno what the circumstances are with Carrillo. But I'm wondering why the cops aren't being charged if he was shot while in pursuit as the link seems to indicate.

Maybe it is still under investigation.

Maybe in California they don't let the police departments do the investigation of shootings by their own officers.  In Texas, it is an automatic grand jury.