Which of the following elections do you think were "stolen"?

[Wonkish1]

Well considering the judge in Washington basically admitted that it was stolen, but that he wasn't going to order a re-vote I think that would should be the biggest yes on this thread.

P.S. Washington was stolen for the exact reason why the GOP resisted hand counting in Florida. And the same happened in Minnesota.


But nobody would worry about these recount problems if every precinct had both a computer and a printed card and scanner system.

You pick your choices on a screen. It prints a card similar to those bubble sheets you remember from school. You look at the card to make sure its right and then feed into a scanner. When both systems report the same number(which they will) you can't argue with the machine results.

[Wonkish1]

None of the above, because I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

I would generally be more of this type of person myself. But I also know that some very marginal shenanigans go on with these types of situations. Washington governor's race was pretty blatantly obvious to people watching the recounts and court proceedings. But as the judge pointed out, "What do you want me to do the provisional's got mixed in with the regular ballots we can't reseparate them out now."

The system isn't 100% perfect, but its pretty damn close.

[Wonkish1]

Who claimed NH and NM primaries were stolen ?

Nobody hence the people that are voting for those 2 are crazy conspiracy theorists that will believe anything.

[Wonkish1]

New Mexico 2008 Democratic caucus seemed kind of sketchy, but Washington 2008 GOP caucus was more obviously stolen:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=70234.0

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=70313.0

What can I say King County, Washington might actually be one of the most 'cheatingest'(yes that may actually not be a word) places in the country. Almost as bad as Philly with its "street money"(a remnant leftover from ~1900 machine politics).

Rossi vs. Gregoire was pretty much just as blatant. King County "Oops we mixed in a few provisional ballots in with the regular ballots during the recount, sorry; guess there is nothing that can be done about that now". The judge threw out the case because it wasn't "intentional".