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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« on: February 15, 2004, 03:20:17 AM »

In the near term, it's doubtful.  In the long term, it could be likely.  I don't think its possible to start from elements inside the two major parties though.

The closest we've seen to a centrist party in our lifetimes was the rise of Ross Perot.  Perot's movement was based on centrist "common-sense" principles.  It didn't come from the two major parties, but instead created mostly new activists.  Any new centrist party would have to start with new activists, and build into the moderate wings of the major parties.  Then the new party would have to try to get beyond an inevitable fight between the early-adopters and the former Democrats and Republicans.

Even though I am ideologically moderate, I am fanatically partisan.  Many moderate Democrats are the same way.  It would be extremely difficult for moderates to jump ship because if it didn't work out, they'd be dead politically and that would only hurt the "moderate movement".  I support the Republican Party... so I don't want moderates going to a new party, I want all moderates in the GOP!

Someday, our generation will get up off its respective asses and vote.  It may come gradually as a result of growth, or it may come all at once as a result of events.  Either way, our peers will be looking for a choice that matches their vision and values.

I devote myself every day to trying to make my Party compatible with the overall desires and dreams of my generation.  We are a generation that believes in balancing fiscal responsibility with social justice.  Tax cuts and tolerance.  The "old politics" is out of balance.  It encourages hypocrasy, corruption, injustice, and seems to cater only to the demographic of disgruntled residents of nursing homes and assisted living facilities.  As the Democrat Party is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the AARP, The Republican Party is much closer to breaking away from the "old politics"... but if we lose one step forward, it will mean 10 steps backwards.  We are so close, yet so far away.

If we should fail in our mission, then the future nation will have no choice but to turn away from us - and a new party would become necessary.  The party would not just be centrist, but libertarian as well.  It's number one issue would most likely be the sky-rocketing defecit.  It would promote fiscal, social, moral, and ethical responsibility.  Because the partisans of the major parties would not be involved in its creation - it would develop its own identity rather than being a combination of the two major parties.
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2004, 06:28:51 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2004, 06:45:18 PM by htmldon »

I think its VERY difficult to determine electoral votes with so many parties especially under a winner-take-all system.  I've made an attempt at gauging support in different states for these parties instead.  I've omitted the SP and NP as I do not believe that these would be serious parties even under this sort of system.  Each party would have "home base states" with its strongest roots of ideological support.

Progressive Democrats: (Massachusetts/California)


National Democrats (Arkansas/New York)


Centrist Independents: (Arizona/New Hampshire)


Public Conservatives: (Texas/Indiana)


Christian Conservatives (Alabama/Utah)
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2004, 09:16:31 PM »

Are we totally forgetting Libertarians in the 7-party-system or would they be distributed between "Conservatarians" in the PCP, "Mainstream Libertarians" in the CIP, and "Marijuanatarians" in the PDP?
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