PA 13 (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 16, 2024, 05:17:08 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Congressional Elections (Moderators: Brittain33, GeorgiaModerate, Gass3268, Virginiá, Gracile)
  PA 13 (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: PA 13  (Read 329510 times)
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« on: June 16, 2004, 10:29:31 PM »

Oh lord... more Toomeyites... don't make me get out my Specter logo.... Smiley
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2004, 10:43:48 PM »

Hopefully Toomey will be back... to have to get a real job somewhere rather than challenging good Republican incumbents.  Maybe someday, he'll decide to challenge Democrats instead.

I strongly applaud you though for your loyalty and your committment to defeating Joe Hoeffel.  Unfortunately, there is one Pennsylvanian around here (whose name rhymes with Duperfoulty Smiley) who you need to inspire to do the right thing!

I also salute the man in your picture... as much as I detest his statements regarding gays and lesbians, I applaud his loyalty to Senator Specter.  Your state needs both Specter and Santorum.  The last thing they need is Hoeffel and Hafer!
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2004, 10:44:42 PM »

You're right.

Greenwood for President, 2008!  Woohoo! Smiley

Greenwood? Cmon you gotta be kidding me!
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2004, 11:02:34 PM »

I can't understand why someone would think Pat Leahy would be better.

Santorum is probably my least favorite among the Republican members in the Senate... but he beats ANY Democrat by a mile.

I can see his reason for supporting Hoeffel. (I guess thats what he's doing...?) Many conservatives are so enraged by yet another Specter win. We took it hard. Conservatives don't want to see him chair the Judiciary (myself being one of them) but we conservatives CANNOT throw our support behind Joe Hoeffel. Believe me, I know his record and it could be considered (when looking at a number of votes) Far left.

As for the many in my picture, he is one of my favorites in politics. However, I don't applaud his support of Senator Specter but that's a whole different story.

I agree with you that the last thing Pennsylania needs is Hoeffel/Hafer and I'll say it now that Pennsylvania won't be electing either of them to the U.S. Senate.
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2004, 11:10:06 PM »
« Edited: June 16, 2004, 11:10:45 PM by Governor htmldon »

I'd certainly prefer Kyl to Specter.

But having the triple-shot of
A) extreme social conservatives winning a primary and me having to watch them parade around on TV like they've done something important.
B) extreme social conservative losing yet another seat for our Party. (see Kansas and Oregon Gubenatorial races in 2002)
C) Democrats winning a seat, and me having to watch them parade around on TV like they've done something important.

....simply wasn't worth it.

And if you look at the seats... there is no guarantee that we will hold the Senate.  We can't afford a loss.


No one thinks Leahy would be better. Most think the GOP will keep the Senate and probably BUILD on its majority. They want Specter to lose, have the D's pick that one up, and get Jon Kyl as the Judiciary Chair.
Logged
Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
htmldon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,983
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.03, S: -2.26

« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2004, 11:27:02 PM »

I didn't say Pat Toomey was necessarily an extreme social conservative.  It's some of his supporters that I'm worried about.  One Rick Santorum is enough.

Everything in politics is about money.  If the NRSC had to waste money defending a seat in PA, it would hurt our chances even more in other states.

I believe that if Toomey was the nominee here, we would beat Joe Hoeffel. I honestly believe that. Joe Hoeffel has a liberal record that would not sit well with a statewide electorate. Hoeffel can't win with the views he holds. Would it have been close? Yes. It would have been a real fight but we have to fight for what we believe in.

Pat Toomey agrees with President Bush on almost every social issue. Is President Bush an extreme social conservative? Nope. Neither is Pat Toomey. He holds the traditional values of the Republican party just as the President does.

You're right there is no guarantee that we will hold the Senate but chances are, we will and will build on the majority we have.


Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.029 seconds with 12 queries.