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« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2011, 03:06:33 PM »

JFK Lives

35. John F Kennedy/Lyndon B Johnson 1961-1965
36. Richard M Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller 1965-1973
37. John F Kennedy/Alan Cranston 1973-1977
38. Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan 1977-1985
39. Edward M Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen 1985-1993
40. Barry Goldwater Jr./Jack Kemp 1993-2001

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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2011, 04:17:37 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2011, 05:32:19 PM by Veteran of the Psychic Wars »

JFK Lives: Version One

List of Presidents and Vice-Presidents
35. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX), George Smathers (D-FL) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1969
36. George Smathers (D-FL)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1973

37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) January 20th, 1973-June 15th, 1978
38. Gerald R Ford (R-MI)/vacant, Ronald Reagan (R-CA) June 15th, 1978-January 20th, 1981

39. Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)/James E Carter (D-GA) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Howard Baker (R-TN) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
41. Robert Casey (D-PA)/Carl Levin (D-MI) January 20th, 1997-May 30th, 2000
42. Carl Levin (D-MI)/vacant, Colin Powell (D-PA) May 30th, 2000-January 20th, 2001
43. Colin Powell (D-PA)/Evan Bayh (D-IN) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009

44. George W Bush (R-TX)/Mitt Romney (R-MA) January 20th, 2009-Present

Losing Tickets
1964: Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Congressman William E Miller (R-NY)
1968: Governor Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Governor George Romney (R-MI)

1972: President George Smathers (D-FL)/Vice-President Edmund Muskie (D-ME)
1976: Former Vice-President Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senate Majority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN)
, Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/Former Governor Lester Maddox (AI-GA)
1980: Vice-President Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Senator James L Buckley (C-NY), Congressman John Anderson (I-IL)/Attorney General Elliot Richardson (I-MA)
1984: Governor John Lindsay (R-NY)/Senator Charles Percy (R-IL)
1988: Vice-President James E Carter (D-GA)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)
1992: Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE)/Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA)

1996: Vice-President Howard Baker (R-TN)/Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R-KS), Former Congressman Ronald E Paul (C-TX)/Former Ambassador Patrick J Buchanan (C-VA)
2000: Senator Winthrop Rockefeller (R-WV)/Senator William Weld (R-MA), Former Ambassador Patrick J Buchanan (C-VA)/Congressman Duncan Hunter (C-CA)
2004: Governor George Pataki (R-NY)/Governor George W Bush (R-TX), Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mayor Matt Gonzalez (C-CA)
2008: Vice-President Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Former Mayor Rudy Guiliani (D-NY)
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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2011, 05:53:47 PM »

JFK Lives: Version Two

List of Presidents and Vice-Presidents
35. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1969
36. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/James Rhodes (R-OH) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977
37. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Robert F Kennedy (D-NY) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
38. Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
39. Richard Gephart (D-MO)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
40. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Robert S Dole (R-KS), Charles Hagel (R-NE) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
41. Charles Hagel (R-NE)/Gary Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2009

42. Joseph R Biden (D-DE)/James Webb (D-VA) January 20th, 2009-Present

Losing Tickets
1964: Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor William Scranton (R-PA), Senator Strom Thurmond (AI-SC)/Orville Faubus (AI-AR)
1968: Vice-President Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/Senate Majority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN)
1972: Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Senator Frank Church (D-ID)
1976: Vice-President James Rhodes (R-OH)/Governor Wintrhop Rockefeller (R-AR)
1980: President Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Vice-President Robert F Kennedy (D-NY)
1984: Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)

1988: Vice-President Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Governor George HW Bush (R-TX)
1992: Governor George HW Bush (R-TX)/Senator Jack Kemp (R-NY)

1996: Vice-President Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator William J Clinton (D-AR)
2000: Senator William J Bradley (D-NJ)/Senator Warren Beatty (D-CA)
2004: Senator John F Kerry (D-MA)/Former Governor Ann Richards (D-TX)

2008: Vice-President Charles Hagel (R-NE)/Vice-President Gary E Johnson (R-NM)
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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2011, 03:39:20 PM »

The Rise of the Conservative Party
36. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/vacant, Wayne Morse (D-OR) November 22nd, 1963-January 20th, 1969
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR) January 20th, 1969-November 24th, 1971
38. Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/vacant, Jacob R Javits (R-NY),
Henry M Jackson (D-WA) January 20th, 1971-February 22nd, 1973
39. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/vacant,George HW Bush (R-TX)February 22nd, 1973-January 20th, 1977
40. George McGovern (D-SD)/Morris K Udall (D-AZ) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
41. John Connally (R-TX)/James L Buckley (C-NY) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
42. James L Buckley (C-NY)/vacant, Philip M Crane (C-IL) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

43. Jon Anderson (R-IL)/Edward Brooke (R-MA) January 20th, 1980-January 20th, 1993
44. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
45. Orrin Hatch (C-UT)/Fred Thompson (C-TN) January 20th, 2001-September 11th, 2001
46. Fred Thompson (C-TN)/vacant, David Boren (C-OK) September 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2001

47. John F Kennedy Jr. (D-NY)/Barrack H Obama Jr. (D-IL) January 20th, 2009-Present
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2011, 08:37:14 PM »

Attempt at Creating the blueprints for the most epic timeline ever
Part one is establishing at least some list of the Presidents. I only have a couple of ideas relating to 1970's/1980's Presidential elections, but they seem epic in my head, so I want to expand on that.

32. Cordell Hull (D-TN)/Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941
33. Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/George Marshall (D-PA) January 20th, 1941-April 12th, 1945
34. George Marshall (D-PA)/vacant  April 12th, 1945-January 20th, 1949

35. Arthur H Vandenber (R-MI)/Robert Taft (R-OH) January 20th, 1949-April 18th, 1951
36. Robert Taft (R-OH)/vacant, Thomas Dewey (R-NY) January 20th, 1951-Jly 31st, 1953
37. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/vacant July 31st, 1953-January 20th, 1957

38. Franklin D Roosevelt Jr. (D-NY)/George Smathers (D-FL) January 20th, 1957-July 3rd, 1964
39. George Smathers (D-FL)/vacant, John F Kennedy (D-MA) July 3rd, 1964-January 20th, 1969

40. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977
41. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) January 20th, 1977-September 1st, 1983
42. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/vacant, Walter Mondale (D-MN) September 1st, 1983-January 20th, 1989

43. Ronald E Paul (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
44. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Joseph R Biden (D-DE) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
45. Charles Hagel (R-NE)/Gary E Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2005-Present
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« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2011, 03:24:59 PM »

32. John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) 1933-1941
33. Wendell Willkie (R-NY)/Henry Wallace (R-IA) 1941-1944
34.Henry Wallace (R-IA)/vacant, Thomas Dewey 1944-1949

35. Richard Russell Jr. (D-GA)/Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) 1949-1953
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (D-CA) 1953-1961
37. Barry Goldwater (D-AZ)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) 1961-1967
38. Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/vacant 1967-1969

39. George W Romney (R-MI)/John V Lindsay (R-NY) 1969-1972
40. John V Lindsay (R-NY) 1972-1977

41. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown (D-CA)/Edward M Kennedy (D-MA) 1977-1985
42. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (D-CA) 1985-1989


To maybe be continued...
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« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2011, 08:38:13 PM »

An Endless Cold War
Based on the idea of the USSR still surviving, which came up in Gporter's "What should I write next?" thread...

41. George HW Bush (R-TX)/James D "Dan" Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Charles Robb (D-VA) 1993-2001
43. George W Bush (R-TX)/Oliver North (R-VA) 2001-2005
44. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 2005-2009
45. Rudolph Guiliani (R-NY)/John S McCain III (R-AZ) 2009-Present

Basically, Angry_Weasel introduced the idea of more Liberal Democrats due to less of a push to the right on economics because Republicans aren't as successful in policy (I guess as evidenced by the fact the USSR is still around). However, I see that they could still maintain some semblance of a more aggressive foreign policy, therefore, Chuck Robb is picked by Mario Cuomo for VP. In 1994, the Contract with America is less popular with the American People than in real life, and the Republicans take the Senate, but not the House. In 1996, newly elected Senator Oliver North (whose actions in the Iran Hostage Crisis are seen more as "necessary" with the threat of the Soviets still present) launches an insurgent bid against Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole. However, he is unable to beat Dole who runs as a more moderate candidate who is seen as less offenseive to voters who still value the New Deal. In 2000, Governor George W Bush runs as a "Reagan who can finish the fight". He chooses 1996 runner-up Oliver North as his running mate. He goes on to beat the Democratic ticket of Chuck Robb and Joe Lieberman by narrowly winning New Hampshire, but losing the popular vote. In Dubya's cabinet, Secretary of State Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Colin Powell attempt to create an "aggressive, yet realistic foreign policy". However, cabinet in-fighting results in little getting done policy-wise. At the same time, Bush, under claims that the Soviet Union is propping up Iraq in order to maintain control in the Middle East, begins the Iraq War in 2002. The war, while initially popular, ends up losing Bush the election as Americans live nightly with the fear of nuclear armageddon. Bush's successor, Joe Lieberman, is just as hawkish as Bush, and the Iraq War continues. However, nuclear tensions defuse. In 2008, Rudy Guiliani, Mayor-turned-Governor of a highly Democratic state and hero of the 9/11 "Espionage Attack" on New York City, is elected by a large margin over Lieberman, who is plagued by Iraq as Johnson was with Vietnam 40 years earlier. Guiliani governs as Bush attempted: a "hawkish realist" and is able to negotiate an end to the Iraq War. However, years of military spending and continually increased taxes plus a large deficit do not leave the economy in good shape by 2011. Will accomplishments in foreign affairs allow Guiliani to win re-election?
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« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2011, 09:47:59 PM »

I will not be running for a fourth term this November...
(also known as the Dead Rockefellers, because of the goings on of a certain political family; yeah I know that name's used before)

33. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John W Bricker (R-OH) January 20th, 1945-January 20th, 1953
34. James Roosevelt (D-CA)/Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
35. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Richard M Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1961-August 19th, 1962
36. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/vacant, Walter Judd (R-MN) August 19th, 1962-January 20th, 1969

37. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/George Smathers (D-FL) January 20th, 1969-February 3rd, 1973
38. George Smathers (D-FL)/vacant, Edmund Muskie (D-ME) February 3rd, 1973-January 20th, 1977

39. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/James L Buckley (R-NY) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
40. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA)/James E Carter (D-GA) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. James E Carter (D-GA)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993

42. Rudolph W Guiliani (R-NY)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
43. John F Kennedy Jr. (D-NY)/Paul Wellstone (D-MN) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
44. George W Bush (R-TX)/John Engler (R-MI)

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« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2011, 01:38:14 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2011, 02:56:26 PM by Cathcon »

25. Thomas Brackett Reed (R-ME)/Henry Clay Evans (R-TN) March 4th, 1897-December 7th, 1902
26. Henry Clay Evans (R-TN)/vacant, December 7th, 1902-March 4th, 1905

27. Alton Brooks Parker (D-NY)/Henry G Davis (D-WV) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1909
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Leslie M Shaw (R-IA), Hiram W Johnson (R-CA) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1921
29. George B McClellan Jr. (D-NY)/William G McAdoo (D-TN) March 4th, 1921-March 4th, 1929
30. William G McAdoo (D-TN)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933

31. Herbert C Hoover (R-CA)/Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY) March 4th, 1933-January 10th, 1941
32. James Farley (D-NY)/Henry Ford (D-MI), Charles Lindbergh (D-MI) January 10th, 1941-January 10th, 1949
33. Herbert Hoover Jr. (R-CA)/Robert Taft (R-OH), vacant January 10th, 1949-January 10th, 1957
34. Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Evertt Dirksen (R-IL) January 10th, 1957-January 10th, 1961

35. Barry Goldwater (D-AZ)/John F Kennedy (D-MA) January 10th, 1961-January 10th, 1969
36. Frank Church (R-ID)/Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 10th, 1969-November 13th, 1972
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/vacant, Spiro T Agnew (R-MD) November 13th, 1972-January 10th, 1977

38. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Ronald E "Ron" Paul (D-TX) January 10th, 1977-January 10th, 1985
39. Paul Simon (D-IL)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (D-CA) January 10th, 1985-January 10th, 1993
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« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2011, 03:14:41 PM »

Taft was only on the 1948 Republican ticket to appeal to the dying Conservative wing of the party. With his death in 1953, the death of Conservative Republicanism occurs.
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« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2011, 08:18:18 PM »

While it's not a long list, this is a TL I'm planning on doing once my five other projects get at least somewhat reduced.

Presidents/Vice-Presidents
42. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR)/Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) 1993-2001
43. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) 2001-2005

44. Rudolph W Giuliani (R-NY)/George Allen (R-VA) 2005-Present

Losing Tickets
2000: Governor George W Bush (R-TX)/Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney (R-WY), Activist Ralph Nader (I-DC)/Activist Winon LaDuke (I-MN)
2004: President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Vice-President Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), Activist Ralph Nader (I-DC)/Activist Peter Camejo (I-CA)
2008: Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Senator Hillary Rodham-Clinton (D-NY)

It'd obviously be a lot more detailed than this, and it'd go in the "Fluke of the Gods" formate the PBrunsel, Kalwejt, and GZ67 use or have used in the past.
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« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2011, 09:55:44 AM »

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40. Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/George HW Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
41. George HW Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Howard Baker (R-TN) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1985

42. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) January 20th, 1985-June 2nd, 1987
43. Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/vacant, William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR) June 2nd, 1987-January 20th, 1993

44. Richard B Cheney (R-WY)/Oliver North (R-VA) January 20th, 1993-November 8th, 1994
45. Oliver North (R-VA)/vacant, Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) November 8th, 1994-January 20th, 1997

46. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR)/Paul Wellstone (D-MN) January 20th, 1997-February 12th, 1999
47. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/vacant, Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) February 12th, 1999-January 20th, 2001

48. John McCain (R-AZ)/George W Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 2001-September 11th, 2001
49. George W Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Fred Thompson September 11th, 2001-January 20th, 2009

50. Anthony Weiner (D-NY)/Gray Davis (D-CA) January 20th, 2009-June 21st, 2011
51. Gray Davis (D-CA)/vacant June 21st, 2011-President
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« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2011, 10:43:59 PM »

Possibly to go in my mini-tl thread once I decide to finish my current one and get on this...
The Rise of the Liberal Republicans...
With the election of 1872, a turning point came in the history of American politics. The Democrats with their endorsement of Horace Greeley, had taken themselves out of the race, instead watching two factions of the Republican party fight it out for the Presidency. To everyone's surprise, Horace Greeley would win come election night 1872.

Former Congressman Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Governor Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 186 electoral votes, 48.5% of the popular vote
President Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Senator Henry Wilson (R-MA) 50.9% of the popular vote

With that, Horace Greeley would take office, becoming the 19th President of the United States of America. Due to outrage over his many policies relating to civil rights and his attempts at reforms (many of which were compared to socialism), the Democrats would disavow him. Not only that, but he would die three years into his first term, leaving President Benjamin Brown holding the bag full of unpopularity and political unrest that Greeley left behind. Come the 1876 election, things would not go well.

Former Senator Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Former Senator John F Lewis (R-VA) 246 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
Senator John W Stevenson (D-KY)/Senator Thomas F Bayard (D-DE) 77 electoral votes, 26.6% of the popular vote
President Benjam Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/Senator Lyman Trumbull (LR-IL) 43 electoral votes 22.3% of the popular vote

Grant's previous success in the South in 1872 and 1876 led to the creation of the Republican "Southern Strategy", the aim being to attract high African American turnout. With Liberal Republicans instead going for farmers that Conservative Democrats didn't appeal to, the Democrats found themselves quickly shrinking. By the end of the century they had been near completely annhilated as was the widespread belief in segregation and slavery. While things were nowhere near perfect for blacks, they were much better as both sides openly supported Civil Rights and a lot was done in the period...

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
18. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Schulyer Colfax (R-IN) 1873-1877
19. Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 1873-1876
20. Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/vacant 1876-1877

21. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/John F Lewis (R-VA), James A Garfield (R-OH) 1877-1885
22. John Sherman (R-OH)/Grover Cleveland (R-NY) 1885-1889


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« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2011, 04:30:15 PM »

The Rise of the Liberal Republicans
With the election of 1872, a turning point came in the history of American politics. The Democrats with their endorsement of Horace Greeley, had taken themselves out of the race, instead watching two factions of the Republican party fight it out for the Presidency. To everyone's surprise, Horace Greeley would win come election night 1872.

Former Congressman Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Governor Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 186 electoral votes, 48.5% of the popular vote
President Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Senator Henry Wilson (R-MA) 50.9% of the popular vote

With that, Horace Greeley would take office, becoming the 19th President of the United States of America. Due to outrage over his many policies relating to civil rights and his attempts at reforms (many of which were compared to socialism), the Democrats would disavow him. Not only that, but he would die three years into his first term, leaving President Benjamin Brown holding the bag full of unpopularity and political unrest that Greeley left behind. Come the 1876 election, things would not go well.

Former Senator Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Former Senator John F Lewis (R-VA) 246 electoral votes, 50.8% of the popular vote
Senator John W Stevenson (D-KY)/Senator Thomas F Bayard (D-DE) 77 electoral votes, 26.6% of the popular vote
President Benjam Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/Senator Lyman Trumbull (LR-IL) 43 electoral votes 22.3% of the popular vote

Grant's previous success in the South in 1872 and 1876 led to the creation of the Republican "Southern Strategy", the aim being to attract high African American turnout. With Liberal Republicans instead going for farmers that Conservative Democrats didn't appeal to, the Democrats found themselves quickly shrinking. By the end of the century they had been near completely annhilated as was the widespread belief in segregation and slavery. While things were nowhere near perfect for blacks, they were much better as both sides openly supported Civil Rights and a lot was done in the period...

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
18. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/Schulyer Colfax (R-IN) 1873-1877
19. Horace Greeley (LR-NY)/Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO) 1873-1876
20. Benjamin Gatz Brown (LR-MO)/vacant 1876-1877

21. Ulysses S Grant (R-IL)/John F Lewis (R-VA), James A Garfield (R-OH) 1877-1885
22. Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL)/Grover Cleveland (R-NY) 1885-1893
23. Grover Cleveland (R-NY)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) 1893-1897

24. Wiliam Jennings Bryan (LR-NE)/George F Edmunds (LR-VT) 1897-1901
25. Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) 1901-1909
26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Charles W Fairbanks (R-IN) 1909-1913
27. Joseph B Foraker (R-OH)/Philander C Knox (R-PA) 1913-1917

28. Thedore Roosevelt (LR-NY)/Robert M La Follette (LR-WI) 1917-1922
29. Robert M La Follette (LR-WI)/vacant, Joseph T Robinson (LR-AR) 1922-1929

30. Herbert Hoover (R-CA)/John Nance Garner (R-TX) 1929-1937
31. John Nance Garner (R-TX)/James Farley (R-NY) 1937-1941

32. Franklin D Roosevelt (LR-NY)/Henry Wallace (LR-IA) 1941-1946
33. Henry Wallace (LR-IA) 1946-1953

34. Joseph Kennedy Jr. (R-MA)/George Smathers (R-FL) 1953-1961
35. George Smathers (R-FL)/Everett Dirksen (R-IL) 1961-1965

36. Richard M Nixon (LR-CA)/Lyndon B Johnson (LR-TX) 1965-1973
37. Barry Goldwater (R-CA)/Martin Luther King Jr. (R-GA) 1973-1981
38. Martin Luther King Jr. (R-GA)/Robert F Kennedy (R-MA) 1981-1985
39. Robert F Kennedy (R-MA)/Ernest Hollings (R-SC) 1985-1993

40. Walter Mondale (LR-MN)/William J "Bill" Bradley (LR-NJ) 1993-2001
41. William J "Bill" Bradley (LR-NJ)/Lincoln Chaffee (LR-RI) 2001-2005

42. John S McCain III (R-AZ)/Herman Cain (R-GA) 2005-Present

18, 21. Ulysses S Grant (R): The longest serving President in American history, serving a total of twelve years and being on the Republican ticket four times, he today is an icon of modern Conservatism (that being somewhat different than OTL Conservatism).

26, 28. Theodore Roosevelt (R/LR): One of America's longest serving Presidents, after having angered many in his own party with his own reforms, he failed the test for re-nomination in 1912. However, "Bull Moose" was back in full force in 1916 with his new friends, the Liberal Republicans. His previous political offices included New York State Assemblyman (1881-1885), Mayor of New York City (1887-1890), Assistant Secretary of the Navy (1891-1892), Secretary of War (1894-1895), Governor of New York (1897-1900), and Vice-President (1901-1909).

30. Herbert Hoover (R): "The Great Humanitarian", Hoover served as California Governor for six years before being elected President. Before that, Herbert Hoover was a mining engineer and worked on food relief during the Second Mexican-American War in 1913.

31. John Nance Garner (R): The first President representing the South since Zachary Taylor, Garner was a reluctant Republican. Not liking either party a lot and thrown off by Republicans' love for civil rights and Liberal Republicans' talks about reforms that bordered on socialism, Garner settled on joining the Republicans due to their talks about the free market and the fact they were to the Right of the Liberal Republicans. Garner rose quickly in Republican House ranks due to how much both parties were attempting to dig in to the South after the death of the Democratic party and eventually rose to become Speaker of the House before being selected for Vice-President by Hoover.

32. Franklin D Roosevelt (LR): Cousin of the "beloved" Theodore Roosevelt who died in 1923, Franklin D Roosevelt had served as a member of the New York State Senate (1911-1917), Assistant Secretary of the Navy (1917-1920), Postmaster General (1920-1925), Governor of New York (1927-1935) and Senator from New York (1935-1941) before being elected President.

34. Joseph Kennedy Jr. (R): The first Catholic President, Kennedy was a chasmatic, successful President who along with others Presidents is still idolized today by Republicans. After the collapse of Northern Democratic machines, the Catholics were unsure of where to go. Persuaded by some Northern Bourbon Democrats and Civil Rights activists, a majority of them fell into the Republican folds which quickly adopted both pro-immigrant and "wet" stances in order to hold onto the power of machines such as Tammany Hall.

36. Richard M Nixon (LR): Only the third Liberal Republican President to win re-election, Nixon had a long and interesting history. Despite having been raised by Quaker Republicans in Southern California, after service in the Pacific War, Nixon broke with his parents' roots, citing "The Republicans long ago made irrelevant their beleifs in Civil Rights. It is now the Liberal Republicans who push forward for more rights for the worker and the farmer." With his farming roots and his hate for "those damn East Coast Conservative Republicans", he fit in with and become a popular figure among the Liberal Republicans. Elected Congressman from California (1945-1947), he was known for his attempted prosecutions of "fat cats" and the mob. Using this as a stepping stone, he was able to be elected to the Senate in 1946. The 1956 Liberal Republican nominee, Nixon gained a deep-seated hatred for "The slick pair made up of the East Coast Papist and the Dixie-coddling Corporatist". In reality, he despised them for good looks and charm, a quality possessed by both men on the Republican ticket. Declaring in 1958 that he would not be running for re-election to the Senate, he claimed "Yes, gentlemen, yes. This is my last Press conference." However, Smathers' landslide victory over the 1960 LR ticket and the tumultous four years following drew the former Senator back into politics and he struck back in 1964 with a comfortable victory and a landslide four years later.

37. Barry Goldwater (R): Dubbed "a bat-sh**t crazy Jew" by President Nixon in 1971 and seen as having no chance against the folksy and popular Vice-President Johnson, Goldwater won in an upset and became one of the many icons of Conservative Republicans today.

38. Martin Luther King Jr. (R): The nation's first African-American President, unlike Nixon, King stuck to his Republican roots and became fairly successful in politics, being elected Governor of Georgia in 1970 and elected Vice-President two years later. Upon taking office in 1981, King had consistently high approval ratings but chose to not run for re-election. "As a child growing up, it was seen as impossible for a black man to be elected President of the United States. Now, I stand before you having been lucky enough to have accomplished that goal. However, I am content and will not seek re-election next November. I have lived a life I believe my ancestors would be proud of and that is enough for me."

42. John S McCain III (R): The son of former Navy Secretary John S McCain II (1961-1965), McCain when he ran for Senate in 1976 in the seat that President Goldwater once held, had a large amount of establishment backing and money going into his campaign allowing the young war hero to win easily over his Liberal Republican opponent. Over the next twenty-eight years, McCain became a respected voice in the Senate, making friends with Senators John Tower (R-TX), George Bush (R-CT), Russ Feingold (LR-WI) and Joe Lieberman (LR-CT). After having been the 1996 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee in 1996 and being the runner-up to Jeb Bush in the 2000 Republican primaries, McCain was the obvious choice in 2004 to end twelve consecutive years of Liberal Republican rule.
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« Reply #64 on: June 29, 2011, 05:16:05 PM »

Where are they now? Other characters in "The Rise of the Liberal Republicans"

Ronald Reagan (R)Sad Formerly a member of the Liberal Republicans, Reagan became a Conservative in 1962 after having endorsed the Republican nominee three elections in a row. He was elected to the Senate in 1964 and Governor of California in 1970. Despite being a candidate for President in 1980, he lost in the Republican primareis to Vice-President Martin Luther King Jr. He placed second in front of Governor Robert F Kennedy of Massachusetts.

Barry Goldwater Jr. (R)Sad The son of President Goldwater, Barry Goldwater Jr. served as Congressman from California (1969-1972), Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1973-1978), Governor of California (1979-1987), and Senator from California (1987-1993). He was Republican Vice-Presidential nominee in 1992 but declined to run for anything after that.

Ron Paul (R)Sad Besides Barry Goldwater Jr., one of President Goldwater's other proteges was Ron Paul who served as a Congressman from Pennsylvania (1975-1978), Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1978-1981), and returned to Congress in 1983. Serving from then to 2003 when he became Governor of Pennsylvania. After one term, however, Paul retired. He was a candidate for the Republican nomination in 1992, 1996, and 2000, as well as the Vice-Presidential nominee of the "Liberty Party" ticket in 1988.

John Chaffee (LR)Sad Governor of Rhode Island (1963-1969), Secretary of the Navy (1970-1973), Senator from Rhode Island (1973-1993), and finally Secretary of War (1993-1999), John Chaffee was an expert politician and a proud member of the "Blueblood" wing of the Liberal Republican party, meaning the North-Easterners. His son, Lincoln Chaffee, who served in his Senate seat (1993-2001), was elected Vice-President by the Senate after Vice-President elected Paul Wellstone was killed in a plane crash.

John Warner (R)Sad Secretary of the Navy (1973-1978), Senator from Virginia (1979-2003), and Secretary of War (2005-Present), John Warner is another veteran politician and a more moderate member of the very conservative Republican Party.

Hubert H Humphrey (LR)Sad Icon of the Liberal Republicans and Senate Majority Leader during the Nixon years, Humphrey never got to be President, going down in flames in 1960 to the popular and charming Vice-President Smathers. However, he was re-elected to the Senate and continued to serve, becoming Senate Majority Leader after his boss, Lyndon Johnson, left for the Vice-Presidency.

Eugene McCarthy (LR)Sad Two-term Senator from Minnesota, McCarthy's most lasting legacy is a doomed run for the Presidency in 1972 on a third-party ticket after having failed to snatch the LR nomination away from Vice-President Johnson. A bigger icon of the "New Left" than Johnson would ever be, McCarthy is well remembered by peace protesters and so called "Groovies" of the late 1960's and early 1970's.

Nelson Rockefeller (LR)Sad 1960 Vice-Presidential nominee, Nelson Rockefeller's career began in 1933 and ended fifty years later. Working in local politics, Rockefeller had not only the advantage of money, but also the advantage of connections forged by his grandfather the late Nelson W Aldrich who althrough a Republican, was a hero to his grandson. In 1941, Rockefeller was rewarded with his first national position, Postmaster General (1941-1945). After heading back to New York following the beginning of FDR's second term, Rockefeller was elected Mayor of New York City with the backing of FDR, Thedore Roosevelt Jr., and incumbent Mayor Fiorello La Guardia. He served there from 1946 to 1949. After his four years there, Rockefeller headed back to Washington, being appointed by President Wallace Ambassador to the League of Nations, a post which Rockefeller filled from 1950 to 1953. Back in New York after the Liberal Republicans were out of power, Nelson Rockefeller set his sights on the highest position available to him at the time: Governor of New York (1955-1965). During his time there he expanded government, became known as a "tough on crime Liberal", expanded funding for the arts and signed a repeal of abortion prohibitions in the state. After his landslide loss on the Liberal Republican ticket as Vice-Presidential nominee in 1960, Rockefeller hoped to be well set up for 1964, having managed to bring New York into Humphrey's rather small fold. No such luck as Richard Nixon, the "comeback kid" came roaring back with a string of vistories in the Western, Southern, and Mid-Western primaries and won the nomination. However, upon Nixon taking office, Rockefeller was appointed Secretary of State. Despite it being later revealed in confidential tapes that Rockefeller and his friend Ambassador Kissinger were both hated by Nixon, Rockefeller dutifully served from 1965 to 1973. In 1974, Rockefeller won his fourth race for Governor of New York and was re-elected in 1978. On December 31st, 1982, Rockefeller's public career would end and he would die only a few months later in his mistress' home. He was a candidate for the Liberal Republican Presidential nomination in 1960, 1964, 1972, and 1976.

Calvin Coolidge (R)Sad Governor of Massachusetts 1919-1925, Coolidge was the Republicans' 1924 Presidential nominee. He made the case for limited government, a return to Federalism, enforcement of Civil Rights Laws, and other things. However, he was defeated by President LaFollette by a solid margin.
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« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2011, 01:30:16 PM »

What ever happened to: George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham, Barack Obama, Strom Thurmond?

George McGovern (LR)Sad Perhaps one of the greatest Progressive symbols of the 1970's, George McGovern is remembered most fo rhis quixotic bid for President against the popular President Barry Goldwater in 1976. Despite losing that battle, McGovern would win re-election in 1980 and in 1986 be elected Senate Minority Leader. By 1990, he was Senate Majority Leader and held that position until his retirement in 1998.

Jimmy Carter (LR)Sad Congressman from Georgia's 3rd Congressional District (1967-1971) and Secretary of Agriculture for the last two years of the Nixon Administration, Carter would go back to Georgia and be elected Governor of Georgia in 1974 and elected Senator in 1978. Leading a Populist campaign for the Liberal Republican nomination in 1980, Carter would surprisingly win the nomination, touting his experience in the House, in the Nixon Administration, as Governor, and as Senator. However, that would not prevent a comfortable loss at the hands of fellow Georgian Martin Luther King Jr. In the landslide 1984 election, Carter would lose re-election to the Senate and now works in the private sector in oil shale.

William Jefferson Clinton (LR, I)Sad Congressman from Arkansas' 3rd District 1975-1985 and Arkansas Governor (1987-1989), Clinton began his political career in the Populist tradition of Arkansas Liberal Republicans, Clinton's move to the Right on economics in attempting to deal with a Republican controlled House, Clinton lost favor with his core constituency in his home district. Privately, he would comment "I'm attempting to work with the bastards and get them to calm down on issues, and all I get at home is sh**t." In 1982, the Liberal Republican Party of Arkansas would refuse to re-nominate him and he announced that he would be running as an Independent. In 1982 he won with 38% of the vote, leading a small group of Independents to call on him to run for President in 1984. However, he declined. He lost re-election narrowly in 1984 to his Republican opponent. Not feeling nearly done with politics, Clinton announced on December 19th, 1985 that he would be running for Arkansas Governor as an Independent in 1986. Fiscally Conservative, socially for the most part Libertarian, and willing to work with all sides, he was elected Arkansas Governor with 36% of the vote ans served one two year term there before losing re-election.

Hillary Rodham-Ryan (R)Sad A believer in staunch fiscal conservatism while being herself a social moderate, Hillary Rodham-Ryan served as Whitehouse Chief of Staff (1991-1993), Congresswoman from Illinois' 8th Congressional District (1995-2001), and Governor of Illinois (2001-2009, as there was never a switch in gubernatorial election years). Despite declining to run for President and declining to accept John McCain's offer of the Vice-Presidential nomination, Rodham-Ryan is seen as a possible contender for the 2012 Republican nomination.

Born into a Republican family, Hillary, as she is dubbed by the media, despite voting for Nixon in 1968, voted enthusiastically for fellow Republican Barry Goldwater in 1972 and since has maintained a completely Republican voting record. Being interested in politics she became both a lawyer and an activist and in 1976 married fellow Republican lawyer Jim Ryan, also of Illinois. They have two kids.

Barack Obama Jr. (LR)Sad As easy it would be to butterfly Obama out of existence, I've decided I'll be nice and instead, you get this:
Barack Obama was the son of Barack Sr. and Ann Obama (nee: Dunham), a couple who married in Hawaii in 1961, Barack initially had very little interest in politics, instead having remained rather quiet and sad after the death of his father. That was until 1972, when he heard about Martin Luther King Jr., one term  Governor of Georgia and famed Civil Rights Activist, become the 1972 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee. His fledgling interest became only more-so when, eight years later, the Vice-President sought the Presidency. However, young Barack was not to join the Republican party, instead registering with the Liberal Republican Party in Hawaii in 1981 and becoming a local lawyer and activist for cleaner neighborhoods, better municipalities, etc. after his stint at Harvard University. In 1994, by then a respected lawyer, Obama was elected to one term in the Hawaii House of Representatives, representing part of Honolulu. Following the announcement by Congresswoman Pat Saiki in 1996 that she, instead of re-election, would be running for the Senate that year, the young state senator jumped on the situation, running for and winning the Liberal Republican nomination for Congress and beating his Republican opponent by a large margin. He was re-elected in 1998 and 2000. In 2002 with Governor Neil Abercrombie (LR) declining to run again, Obama was elected Hawaii's 6th Governor, a position he served for six years before being elected to the United States Senate in 2008. In short, his resume is:
Member of the Hawaii House of Representatives: 1995-1997, United States Congressman from Hawaii's 1st Congressional District 1997-2002, 6th Governor of the State of Hawaii 2003-2009, and Senator from Hawaii 2009-Present. He is widely considered a potential candidate for President in 2012 and has a good resume. Should he face Hillary Rodham-Ryan in the election, some insiders claim it would only be a repeat of the United States Governors' Conference in 2005 where the two then-Governors' egos famously butted.

James Strom Thurmond (R)Sad Like many Conservative Southerners, a member of the Senate's "Reluctant Republican" caucus (the official name being the Southern Republican conference), Strom Thurmond served as Governor of South Carolina (1947-1951), and United States Senator from South Carolina (1954-1956, 1961-1997). While initially more moderate but also more racist, after his 1956 Senate defeat, Thurmond moved to the right on economics as well as moving to the left on civil rights, fitting back into the "Republican mainstream" to appease the large African American community that success in South Carolina heavily deepended on, especially against an insurgent Liberal Republiacn Party in the state. From 1961 to his retirement in 1996 (he is succeeded by his wife), Thurmond was a strong and powerful advocate for Conservatism. However, he was not only that. Accused of corruption, closet racism (despite openly supporting Civil Rights since 1961), as well as marital infidelity, Thurmond would have to work hard to maintain popularity within his state and did it through his mastery of winning earmarks for his state.
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« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2011, 08:58:54 PM »

Kennedy's failure at the Cuban Missile Crisis

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
35. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
36. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Nelson A Rockefeller (R-NY) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Fred R Harris (D-OK) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
38. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1985
39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KA) January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1989

40. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
41. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Charles Hagel (R-VA) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
42. Wesley Clark (D-IL)/William Richardson (D-NM) January 20th, 2005-Present

Losing Tickets
1960: Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador to the United Nations Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA), Unpledged electors
1964: President John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice-President Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX), J Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Orville Faubus (SR-AR)
1968: Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD)
1972: Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Congressman George HW Bush (R-TX)
1976: Vice-President Fred R Harris (D-OK)/Senate Majority Leader Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN), Congressman Pete McCloskey (I-CA)/former Mayor John Lindsay (I-NY)
1980: Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/former Secretary of State Sargent Shriver (replace Thomas Eagleton)
1984: Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC)/Senator Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr.
1988: Vice-President Robert S Dole (R-KS)/Senator Richard Luger (R-IN)
1992: Senator George HW Bush (R-TX)/Governor Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1996: Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD)
2000: Former Senator Samuel J Nunn (D-GA)/Former Governor Robert Casey (D-PA), Activist Ralph Nader (I-CT)/former Senator William J "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ)
2004: Vice-President Charles Hagel (R-VA)/Governor John E Bush (R-FL)
2008: Former Governor John E Bush (R-FL)/Senator Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
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« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2011, 09:13:40 PM »

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram W Johnson(P-CA) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1921
29. Joseph T Robinson (D-AR)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1921-March 15th, 1923
30. Alfred E Smith (D-NY)/vacant, Charles W Bryan (D/
P-NE) March 15th, 1923-March 4th, 1929
31. John Calvin Coolidge (C-MA)/Charles W Bryan (P-NE) March 4th, 1929-January 5th, 1933
32. Charles W Bryan (P-NE)/vacant January 5th, 1933-March 4th, 1933
33. Millard Tydings (C-MD)/Charles Curtis (C-KS) March 4th, 1933-March 4th, 1937
34. Franklin D Roosevelt (P-NY)/Huey Long (P-LA), Henry Wallace (P-IA) March 4th, 1937-April 12th, 1945
35. Henry Wallace (P-IA)/vacant April 12th, 1945-January 13th, 1949

36. Robert Taft (C-OH)/Douglas MacArthur (C-NY), Joseph P Kennedy (C-MA) January 13th, 1949-July 31st, 1953
37. Joseph P Kennedy (C-MA)/vacant, George Smathers (C-FL) July 31st, 1953-January 13th, 1957

38. Henry A Wallace (P-IA)/Adlai E Stevenson (P-IL) January 13th, 1957-January 13th, 1961
39. Nelson A Rockefeller (P-NY)/Hubert H Humphrey (P-MN) January 13th, 1961-July 18th, 1966
40. Hubert H Humphrey (P-MN)/vacant, Winthrop Rockefeller (P-AR) July 18th, 1967-January 13th, 1973

41. Howard Baker (AU-TN)/John Eisenhower (AU-PA) January 13th, 1973-January 13th, 1977
42. Frank Church (P-ID)/George Romney (P-MI) January 13th, 1977-January 13th, 1981
43. John Ashbrook (C-OH)/James L Buckley (C-NY) January 13th, 1981-April 24th, 1982
44. James L Buckley (C-NY)/vacant, John Tower (C-TX), David Boren (C-OK) April 24th, 1982-January 13th, 1993

45. Howard Baker (AU-TN)/Warren Rudman (AU-NH) January 13th, 1993-January 13th, 1997
46. Warren Rudman (AU-NH)/Albert S Gore Jr. (AU-TN) January 13th, 1997-January 13th, 2001

47. Paul Wellstone (P-MN)/Ralph Nader (P-CT) January 13th, 2001-October 25th, 2002
48. Ralph Nader (P-CT)/vacant, Howard Dean (P-VT) October 25th, 2002-January 13th, 2009

49. James Webb (C-VA)/Doug Hoffman (C-NY) January 13th, 2009-Present

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« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2011, 03:55:09 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2011, 08:09:51 PM by Cathcon »

The Plot to Kill President Kennedy

35. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX) 1961-1963
36. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/vacant, Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN) 1963-1973

37. Richard m Nixon (R-CA)/George HW Bush (R-TX) 1973-1981
38. John Connally (D-TX)/Richard Helms (D-PA) 1981-1989
39. Richard Helms (D-PA)/Jack Crichton (D-TX) 1989-1993

40. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Arlen Specter (R-PA) 1993-2001
41. Arlen Specter (R-PA)/George W Bush (R-TX) 2001-2009

42. John F Kennedy Jr. (I-NY)/Jesse Ventura (I-MN) 2009-Present

In 1963, President Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas, Texas. This was a plot arranged by both Democrats and Republicans, including several future Presidents. Johnson, working with Director of Central Intelligence Richard Helms, former Vice-President Richard Nixon, CIA allies George Bush and Jack Crichton, Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren, and attorney Arlen Specter, was able to cover this up from the world for a large amount of time. Over time, the plotters propogated their own dynasty over the nation, which also included the timely deaths of Senator Robert F Kennedy in 1968 just as he was challenging President Johnson for the nomination, and Senator Ted Kennedy in 1980 as his campaign for President was revving up. While the issue was brought to light in the 1976 Presidential campaign of Senator James Garrison of Louisiana, he himself was crushed in a landslide going up against President Nixon, and was later shot, but not killed.

Eventually, in the fall of 2007, CIA documents were made public by former CIA agent Robert Gates and published in the book "The Plot to Kill President Kennedy". Despite the mass media on both the Left and Right not believing it, the American people were sick of the lies and cover-ups and gladly voted for former Congressman John F Kennedy Jr. who himself barely survived a near fatal shooting before election day.
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« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2011, 06:24:36 PM »

The American Consensus

34. Dwight D Eisenhower (R-KS); January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
          -Richard M Nixon (R-CA); January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1957
          -Robert P Anderson (R-TX); January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1961
35. Robert P Anderson (R-TX); January 20th, 1961-November 22nd, 1963
          -Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY); January 20th, 1961-November 22nd, 1963
36. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY); November 22nd, 1963-January 20th, 1969
          -William Scranton (R-PA); January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969

37. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX); January 20th, 1969-June 17th, 1970
          -Henry M Jackson (D-WA); January 20th, 1969-June 17th, 1970
38. Henry M Jackson (D-WA); June 17th, 1970-January 20th, 1977
          -Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN); August 3rd, 1970-January 20th, 1973
          -Ronald W Reagan (D-CA); January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
39. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA); January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
          -Edward M Kennedy (D-MA); January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981

40. Howard H Baker Jr. (R-TN); January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
          -Charles Percy (R-IL) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Charles Percy (R-IL); January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
          -George HW Bush (R-TX); January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993

42. Joseph R Biden (D-DE); January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
          -Charles E Robb (D-VA); January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
43. Charles E Robb (D-VA); January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
          -Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009

44. John McCain (R-AZ); January 20th, 2009-Present
          -Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI); January 20th, 2009-Present

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« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2011, 09:54:45 PM »

Awesome, but I have a feeling you might have lifted something from something Im currently working on.
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« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2011, 01:24:30 PM »

In honor of the late great Mark Hatfield, two different lists:

37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR) 1969-1974
38. Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/vacant, Gerald R Ford, James L Buckley (R-NY) 1974-1981

39. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) 1981-1983
40. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/vacant, Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1983-1993

41. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Bob Packwood (R-OR), vacant, William Weld (R-MA) 1993-2001
42. William Weld (R-MA)/Colin L Powell (R-NY) 2001-2005

43. John Edwards (D-NC)/Robert Casey Jr. (D-PA) 2005-2009
44. Colin L Powell (R-NY)/Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-Present

40. Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Larry Pressler (R-SD) 1981-1989
41. Larry Pressler (R-SD)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1989-1993

42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Al Gore Jr. (D-TN) 1993-1997
43. Al Gore Jr. (D-TN)/vacant, Sam Nunn (D-GA) 1997-2005

44. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gordon Smith (R-OR) 2005-Present
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« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2011, 09:04:47 PM »

Awesome, but I have a feeling you might have lifted something from something Im currently working on.

Probably a coincidence.

Okay, because I have a mini-timeline going on here that so far has resulted in FDR being Ford's VP in 1920, Ford getting killed, and Ford serving from 1922 to 1929, and then being elected to a third term in 1940, and the coincidence was weird (except in this, FDR's a Democrat).
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« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2011, 07:38:48 AM »

24. Grover Cleveland (D-NY)/Adlai Stevenson I (D-IL) March 4th, 1893-March 4th, 1897
25. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Arthur Sewall (D-ME), Adlai E Stevenson I (D-IL) March 4th, 1897-September 14th, 1901
26. Adlai E Stevenson I (D-IL)/vacant September 14th, 1901-March 4th, 1905

27. Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1913
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/William H Taft (R-OH) March 4th, 1913-March 4th, 1917

29. Charles W Bryan (D-NE)/Oscar W Underwood (D-AL) March 4th, 1917-March 4th, 1925
30. John Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)/Herbert C Hoover (R-CA) March 4th, 1925-January 5th, 1933
31. Herbert C Hoover (R-CA)/vacant January 5th, 1933-March 4th, 1933

32. Huey Pierce Long (D-LA)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) March 4th, 1933-September 10th, 1935
33. John Nance Garner (D-TX)/vacant September 10th, 1935-March 4th, 1937
34. Henry A Wallace (D-IA)/Harry S Truman (D-MO) March 4th, 1937-March 4th, 1941

35. Alfred E Smith (L-NY)/Joseph B Ely (L-MA) March 4th, 1941-March 4th, 1945
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John W Bricker (R-OH) March 4th, 1945-March 4th, 1953
37. Henry A Wallace (D-IA)/Adlai E Stevenson II (D-IL) March 4th, 1953-March 4th, 1957
38. Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL)/James Folsom (D-AL) March 4th, 1957-March 4th, 1965)

39. Barry Goldwater (L-AZ)/William E Miller (L-NY) March 4th, 1965-March 4th, 1973
39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Russell B Long (D-LA) March 4th, 1973-March 4th, 1977
40. Gerald R Ford (R-MI)/Robert S Dole (R-KA) March 4th, 1977-March 4th, 1985
41. Russell B Long (D-LA)/Adlai E Stevenson III (D-IL) March 4th, 1985-March 4th, 1989
42. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (L-CA)/Mark O Hatfield (L-OR), Paul Simon (L-OR) March 4th, 1989-March 4th, 1997
43. John E Bush (R-CT)/Scott Romney (R-MI) March 4th, 1997-February 1st, 2005
44. Scott Romney (R-MI)/Al D'Amoto (R-NY) February 1st, 2005-February 1st, 2009

45. James E Folsom Jr. (D-AL)/Jon Tester (D-MT) February 1st, 2009-Present

25. William Jennings Bryan: shot, the last victim of hte 20 year curse.
27. Henry Cabot Lodge: widely regarded as one of this nation's greatest Presidents due to building it up to superpower status, a legacy that would be continued by his friend and successor Theodore Roosevelt.
30. Calvin Coolidge: died of a stroke during the lame duck period.
32. Huey Long: Shot while promoting his "Every Man a King" program.
34., 37. Henry Wallace: Agriculture Secretary under President Long, before that Governor of Iowa. The first President since Grover Cleveland to be elected to two unconsecutive terms. He was the son of another Agriculture Secretary, Henry C Wallace, who served in that position from 1919 to 1924.
35. Al Smith: first Roman Catholic President and first President from the Liberal Party. The Liberal Party found its roots in opposition to Northern WASP Conservatism of the Republicans and Southern Evangelical Liberalism of the Democrats. Made up of a combination of urban Catholics and Classic Liberals, the Liberal Party had Smith as its candidate in 1932 and 1936. Previously, he served as Governor of New York (1919-1920, 1923-1932)
39. Barry Goldwater: the second Liberal President, Goldwater would have remained a reluctant Republican were it not for a campaign stop through Prescott Arizona by former President Smith in 1948. "I finally realized what party stood in true opposition the Huey Long and Henry Wallace, and it wasn't those pretentious New England Republicans." Before becoming President he served as Senator from Arizona (1953-1965)
41. Gerald Ford: first Republican President in  24 years and first President from Michigan, He would be elected Speaker of the House in 1972 despite the Democratic Presidential victory, and, incredibly reluctantly, due to his nationwide popularity and skill at passing the Republican agenda, be nominated by the Republicans in 1976 and cruise to victory over the embattled President Carter. He would win landslide re-election in 1980, though not have the satisfaction of having a Republican successor.
42. Jerry Brown: second Catholic President and first Liberal President, Brown would be known for his charisma, appeal to youth, and eccentricity while in office combined with a good economy and the first balanced budget since Calvin Coolidge was in office. Previously was Governor of California (1975-1983) and Senator (1983-1989)
43. Jeb Bush: son of politician George Bush who served as Congressman (1967-1971) and Senator (1971-1977) from Connecticut before serving as Secretary of State under President Ford. Jeb Bush on the other hand served as Congressman (1987-1991) and Governor of Connecticut (1991-1996) before being elected President. He and Brown are considered two of the better Presidents of recent times.
44. Scott Romney: first Mormon President and son of 1968 Republican nominee George W Romney, Scott also served as Michigan's Governor, being in that position from 1991 to 1996.

Historical Periods
"The Populis Age: 1896-1940"
Despite the Conservative Presidencies of Calvin Coolidge and Henry Cabot Lodge, the main point that historians note is the dominance of populism during that era. With William Jennings Bryan, the Bourbon Democrats were defeated. The Populist Democrats, holding six of the eleven Presidential terms during this period, would also have an ally in Theodore Roosevelt, a Progressive Republican, therefore, making Populism in some form the dominant ideology for 28 of the 44 years of this period.

"Transition Period: 1940-1976"
Filled with Presidents of various ideologies, despite Democrats holding the Presidency a plurality of the time during this period (four of the nine Presidential terms), and in fact having a twelve year winning streak, Al Smith's election to the Presidency in 1940 marked a shaking up of the two-party system, and the Democrats were obviously not the dominant force desptie their twelve year streak, especially given Adlai Stevenson II's re-election in 1960 where he came in second in the popular vote with only his close victory in Illinois giving him the win. Especially with the election of Barry Goldwater, an "unabashed Conservative Liberal" and a perceived radical, it was clear that things were not completely calm and no party held true dominance.

"Conservative Period: 1976-2008"
From 1964 to 1972, from a historical perspective, one can already seeing America segue into its Conservative Period, beginning with the election of Gerald R Ford. The reductions in the deficit and in debt made by both Presidents Goldwater and Carter paved the way for Ford's massive reduction of inflation and the deficit, as well as President Brown's balanced budget. With Democrats holding power for only four years during this period, and Russell Long's Presidency mainly being haulted by Liberals and Republicans in Congress, it is clear that the main dogma of the time was fiscal conservatism, and Presidents Bush and Romney were able to sustain Brown's balanced budget through the first twelve year string of Republican Presidents since the 1910's. This period seemingly came to an abrupt hault with the market crash of 2007 and the Democrats making massive gains in both Houses of Congress and, of course, the Presidency, in 2008.
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« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2011, 11:03:55 AM »

'Twould seem I'm obsessed with the Whigs... a.k.a. The Survival of Zachary Taylor
12. Zachary Taylor (W-LA)/Millard Fillmore (W-NY) March 4th, 1849-March 4th, 1853
13. Winfield Scott (W-NJ)/John Fremont (W-CA) March 4th, 1853-March 4th, 1861
14. John Fremont (W-CA)/Abraham Lincoln (W-IL) March 4th, 1861-April 15th, 1865
15. Abraham Lincoln (W-IL)/vacant, Schuyler Colfax (W-IN) April 15th, 1865-March 4th, 1873

16. Charles O'Connor (D-NY)/Thomas Hendricks (D-IN) March 4th, 1873-March 4th, 1877
17. Joshua Chamberlain (W-ME)/Alphonso Taft (W-OH) March 4th, 1877-March 4th, 1881
18. Winfield Scott Hancock (D-PA)/Thomas F Bayard (D-DE) March 4th, 1881-February 9th, 1886
19. Thomas F Bayard (D-DE)/vacant February 9th, 1886-March 4th, 1889

20. James Weaver (P-IA)/Henry M Teller (SW-CO) March 4th, 1889-March 4th, 1893
21. Wiliam McKinley (W-OH)/vacant, Robert Todd Lincoln (W-IL) March 4th, 1893-March 4th, 1901
22. Robert Todd Lincoln (W-IL)/Henry Cabot Lodge (W-MA) March 4th, 1901-March 4th, 1909
23. Henry Cabot Lodge (W-MA)/Theodore Roosevelt (W-NY), William Howard Taft (W-OH) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1917

24. William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/John F Fitzgerald (D-MA), James M Cox (D-OH), Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY) March 4th, 1917-July 26th, 1925
25. Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/vacant, John Nance Garner (D-TX) July 26th, 1925-March 4th, 1933

26. Robert Taft (W-OH)/Arthur H Vandenberg (W-MI) March 4th, 1933-March 4th, 1941
27. Arthur H Vandenberg (W-MI)/James Farley (W-NY) March 4th, 1941-March 4th, 1949

28. Earl Warren (D-CA)/Harry S Truman (D-MO) March 4th, 1949-March 4th, 1953
29. John W Bricker (W-OH)/Hubert H Humphrey (W-MN) March 4th, 1953-March 4th, 1961
30. James E Folsom (D-AL)/Mike Mansfield (D-MT) March 4th, 1961-January 13th, 1969
31. Theodore RM Howard (W-IL)/Robert F Kennedy (W-NY) January 13th, 1969-January 13th, 1981
32. Robert F Kennedy (W-NY)/George W Romney (W-MI) January 13th, 1981-January 13th, 1989

33. John McCain (D-VA)/Richard Gephardt (D-MO) January 13th, 1989-January 13th, 1997
34. Richard Gephardt (D-MO)/Russell Feingold (D-WI) January 13th, 1997-January 13th, 2001

35. Gordon Smith (W-OR)/Robert Taft II (W-OH), vacant, Judd Gregg (W-NH) January 13th, 2001-January 13th, 2009
36. Jack Carte (D-NV)/James Webb (D-VA) January 13th, 2009-Present
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